On Tue, Nov 26, 2013, at 04:45 PM, AndyHC wrote: > Say no more, that's a kiss of death if ever I heard one.
Well, maybe. I think in its current form it's pretty far from SmallTalk, however it *is* very wordy, i.e. 'put this of that into this of me' and so on. Sort of grates a bit. > Sounds a bit like Lianja (or 'The Last One') Yes indeed, insofar as they are both rebrandings of long-established 4GL-type products. Recital in the case of Lianja, Runtime Revolution in the case of LiveCode. > in addition to everything else Ted mentioned VFP also gives you the > option to ignore all the graphical UI and just cut code (OK I wouldn't > do that for my first cut at a form, but I might for my last cut). In fairness to it I think it's quite a few levels above Access. You could indeed develop a multi-user, database-agnostic, forms-based business application very quickly with LiveCode and deploy to multiple platforms. However serious questions remain for me over source control, automated testing and so on. I think it's just a bit too hand-holding. For me one of the main strengths of VFP is that it hit a sweet spot. It's simple enough to knock up something that works, but flexible enough to go well beyond that when you're ready. I'm still looking for a modern equivalent in one box. - Cross platform - Database agnostic - Graphical UI designer with inheritance - I'm not designing 100 forms in a code editor. - Uses a mainstream, preferably high-ish level language - Python, Ruby, JavaScript, Lua ... - Can deploy to desktop and web and mobile - Either has an integrated report designer, or an easily pluggable one - Community edition to allow evaluation - Sensible licencing that doesn't assume everyone will be deploying everything in the cloud Anyone comes across one, shout :) _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
