Bill, Very simply. We are the government. If we don't like what they're doing, we fire them.
Once people understand that concept, the rest is easy. What is hard is getting two people, say you and I, to agree on things. Some things you say, I agree with. Some, I don't. That’s why the majority rules. So far the majority doesn’t appear to be interested in changing things from what I've been noticing. Sure the democrats won recently. But only because they SAY they are against the iraq war AND for the citizens, homeless, etc.. Problem is, they are facing the same problems that the republicans were facing and they will ultimately make the same decisions because there is no better alternative from what I've seen so far. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Arnold Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 2:10 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [OT] the course of events; what it is, and how to change it > In reading this bill, two things come to mind. > > 1. You want everybody to live in a socialist environment where > everybody shares in the prosperity OR the lack of it. No. I absolutely believe that if I work harder and smarter then the next person, then I deserve the rewards for having done so. Having said that, we live in the age of the machine, and machines multiply productivity exponentially. Consequently I believe that this "extra" productivity rightly belongs to the ages (all the shoulders we're standing on today) and should be shared. Translation: nobody should starve or go without a roof over their head because we have reached a point in productivity where we can afford to put an end to the worst case scenarios. Beyond making sure that people have the basics of life, they're on their own. That isn't socialism, communism or any such thing. It's charity and a fundamental belief that we are our brother's keeper. Also very much related: just because I work hard/smart and gain lots of money for having done so, I do not deserve any more then 1 vote in a democracy. > 2. You don't seem to understand that the people that you are > calling neocon's and MI werent even figments in peoples > imagination over 75 years ago, and neither are the next great > companies / military leaders that will be here in another 75 years. > > In time oil will no longer be essential for transportation > and other great companies will spring forth by developing > these new industries, and you will still be sitting here > blaming everybody. There are *some* tasks that are too big for any individual, and this is why we form and use gov't, otherwise we wouldn't need gov't at all. In this case, oil - that is, energy - is a problem we all share, therefore a good job to turn to gov't for help with. As it actually happened, the gov't did get involved, during the 1st oil embargo, with a program for generating synthetic oil, and they got close, but the program was shut down when the price of oil slid back down. That was wrong strategy - for us - but it made Big Oil money happy, so that's what happened - and didn't happen. Also, you are aware that we have something like a 200+ year supply we have of coal that can be converted if need be, but I'm far more inclined to believe that motivating our engineers to come up with a variety of solutions is the best bet. But what actually happened is our so-called representatives gave in to Big Oil money and the status quo - that could have changed - is unchanged. Am I being clear? What I'm trying to say is that if our gov't wanted to help us with this energy problem, there are any number of ways it could have acted to do so - but didn't because Big Oil money had too much influence in Washington. > The bottom line is this. > Industries succeed and get more powerful BECAUSE people > purchase their products because they want to or have too. The > oil industry would disappear tomorrow if nobody purchased oil. See above > People in the islamic countries fight because of ignorance > because all their lives they have been taught that allah is > great and death to anybody else, and these belief's are > constantally fueled by the jesse jacksons and al sharptons of Islam. They fight us because we stuck fingers in their eyes. Israel being the Big Example, but there's also how we treat them and their civilization, and how we generally disrespect them, and how we (the West) keep trying to change them. Had we left them alone, I have no doubt they would have left us alone. They sell oil to the world market, and we buy from the world market. That market determines the price, and if we don't like it we can invent a better way. That ends the story as far as I'm concerned. But Big Oil people and stock market people love to manipulate things, and if anything that we need has ever been manipulated, it's oil. > It is only through education and being free to think, do > these people slip through the shackles of hate and come to > realize that democracy is actually a good thing. Right. > You want to make the world a better place to live, you get > rid of the oppressors and give people the ability to make > decisions for themselves. It won't happen overnight, and it > will probably take a generation, but it will happen. All well and good, except for one problem: the dogs of war are out. That should never have happened, but it did, and now we have no choice but to put forth the Herculean effort it's going to take to reign them back in. As I tried to point out, this is going to be incredibly hard to do because the people we need to turn to to stop it are behind it. Bill > Virgil Bierschwale [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
