On Thursday, February 08, 2007 6:07 AM Steven Holt wrote:

My comments in line:

>Geothermal mixed with a heat pump which I think is what you are talking
about is a highly viable >technology in most areas of the country for
both heating and cooling, working off the relatively >shallow depths
where the earth stays an average of 55 degrees.  Straight air to air
heat pumps 
>can become far less efficient at very low outside air temperatures.
This is a vastly different >system from what you may have heard about in
school - drilling for magma heated steam.  Which is >presently practical
mostly at an industrial scale in areas where geologically speaking there
was >near surface magma or relatively recent surface lava.  With this
said, 9 out of 10 houses in 
>Iceland are heated by geothermal systems.  NPR just ran a story about a
laser drill bit for 
>digging down miles for the ubiquitous deep geothermal heat, but this is
presently just a pipe 
>dream.  Ouch!   

I heard of a gentleman on the Eastern Shore of Maryland that spent $20K
for geothermal for his 6,000 sqft house.  Seems like he would have to
live there for many years before getting a payback on that investment.

>For retrofits, your best initial investment is almost invariably in
insulation and surprisingly >storm windows are usually better insulation
than even the highest r value, low e argon filled 
>double pane glass windows coming in at about r-6.  It may be a real
pain, but you can always add >low e argon after the more inexpensive
storms. 

I agree that windows do make a difference.

>Solar domestic water heating is a mature technology that often has the
fastest payback, also 
>look for any tax incentives in your state or potentially coming at the
federal level. 

In my situation, I have a well/pump that costs about $35-50 a month to
run so that we have water.  I looked into running that by solar and it
was not cost efficient.  Plus, Virginia gives me no tax breaks.

>My personal preference for new construction is passive solar with super
insulation in the form 
>of plastered straw bales for wall construction.  If you are not in the
southwest where it is 
>becoming more commonplace, you may get the unmitigated joy of educating
the county's building 
>department and inspectors.  

I had not heard of straw bales for insulation.  Our builder has one of
the form machines to spray into the walls.

>As to the bad solar experience it sounds like you had a design with
insufficient: provision for >summer shading, thermal mass and
insulation.  Not all areas will have enough sun when needed but >in the
sunny southwest it is very possible to do most if not all heating and a
hell of a lot of >your cooling via thermal mass with nocturnal cooling.
Walls made of stacked tires filled with 
>dirt - the earth ship method - are great for down there (but lots and
lots of backbreaking 
>work).
 
>For electricity, personal wind power is great for limited good wind
sites, particularly if you 
>have the room for a tower to fall.  Solar is presently expensive per
kwh but will probably be 
>coming down fast as thin film newspaper style printing technology comes
on line.  Google based 
>investors have a large plant in the works.   If you can grid tie to the
power company with 
>either locally, you won't need banks of expensive relatively short
lived batteries, your 
>electric meter spins backwards and that must simply be a fantastic
feeling.  Unfortunately, grid >tie inverters are not particularly cheap.


Thanks for the information!
  
David L. Crooks


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