The group that lead the American people into the unnecessary war with 
Iraq (eg The Neo-Cons),  could be classified as a subversive 
organization intent on overthrowing our Constitutional form of 
government, and replacing our Democracy with a more theocratic form of 
government patterned after the government of countries like Israel.  If 
this is the case, then very serious crimes have been committed against 
our US Constitutional Government and the American people.  Some 
indicators of where the Neo-Cons were going are:

1)  The Patriot Act which trumps our Constitution rights to freedom, 
privacy, and due process by giving the executive branch of government 
unbridled powers to do whatever they wanted regardless of the American 
Constitution.

2)  Packing the courts with judges of an extreme religious 
fundamentalist background, who would favor following the Bible rather 
than the constitution and judicial law in reaching legal decisions and 
in metering out punishment.  President Bush even tried to put his 
personal counsel on the Supreme Court, but even his own Religious 
Righter followers wouldn't have it.

3)  A executive branch that has absolutely no respect for American 
constitutional rights to freedom, privacy and due process.

4)  Hand picked Neo-Conservative and Bushies appointed to key cabinet 
and other high level Bush Administration positions, who clearly served 
the Neo-Conservatives and Bush Administration agendas, rather than being 
independent and serving the best interest of the American people.  A 
good example of this the the appointment of A. Gonzalez to the position 
of Attorney General.  Gonzales is a long term friend of President Bush 
and has clearly put the wishes of the executive branch ahead of anything 
else, and has played politics by firing staff that did not attack 
members of the Democratic party, rather than remaining independent of 
political parties and personal relations with the executive branch and 
serving the American people by enforcing Constitutional freedoms, 
privacy, and due process.

5)  An secretive executive branch that has not been open and honest with 
the Senate, the House, and the American people.  As a matter of fact, 
the Executive branch that was a machine to spread disinformation and 
propaganda.

The list could go on and on but this should get everyone thinking.  
Being a member of a subversive organization intent on overthrowing the 
US Constitutional form of government is very serious.

Regards,

LelandJ

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Bill Arnold wrote:
> We were duped and manipulated into that war, and now it's 4 years later
> and we're STILL being duped and manipulated.
>
> I love America, always have, but I loathe and disdain what has happened
> to our government. We were brought up to believe America's government is
> of/by/for the people, but all I see is a government and information
> system that's controlled and dominated by special interests.
>
> Two of those interests, Big Oil and the MI Complex, have gotten filthy
> rich and far more powerful   then ever before; and the other, the
> 'soldiers of Israel', who provided the arguments and the programming,
> have accomplishing nothing but to drag their beloved to the edge of the
> abyss - with America right behind it. These people are extremely clever,
> but totally unwise; rich with money, but utterly misguided in principle.
> Their actions aren't even rooted in the religion they claim to follow
> (consider "thou shalt not kill"); it's really all about money and power,
> hiding behind the omnipotent "anti-semite" shield that keeps all critics
> at bay.
>
> Little people can't take on any of these powers-that-be. We can shout
> from the top of every roof - and the next day it's all back to business
> as usual.
>
> In the face of all this power, why should anyone bother anymore? 
>
> Because it's not over. Because we're a train headed for a wreck. 
>
> While the handful of barons that wield editorial control over our
> information supply have been working overtime to pump us up with
> "issues" that dilute and distort the relative importance of things, the
> gang in charge comes up with plot after plot in one vain effort after
> the other to hide themselves from the reality of the monumental disgrace
> and state of peril they've wrought on this nation. They've plundered our
> children, reined destruction and sowed hatred for us - the likes of
> which we've never known before - and the end is nowhere in sight.
>
> They convinced people to buy their bullshit in the beginning, but now,
> despite a clear majority having turned against them, all we get is talk
> - and nothing changes. 
>
> We must come to terms and realize that we're ongoing victims of
> psychological warfare. If I were a cartoonist, I'd draw two characters
> to illustrate this: Puff 'n Bury. While Puff is busy making mountains
> out of molehills and stirring tempests in teapots, Bury is seeing to it
> that what's really important is twisted and distorted into
> unrecognizable blobs. Examples? Watch Puff on the military and our
> undying support for Israel, and then watch Bury's work with the concepts
> of freedom, democracy, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
> That's just for openers.
>
> That we desperately need a real solution to repair the damage that gang
> has done is an imperative. We're up to the part now where we either do
> something in time to salvage this country - or we can do nothing and
> wait until their arrogant belligerence makes things worse, not the least
> of which can be another attack here, and then we can react out of fear
> and make a terrible situation the utter disaster their plot begs to
> become.
>
> Obama became real popular overnight, because people wanted to believe
> that he's really different. He's not. He's just another sell-out. Search
> for yourself to see. The word 'impeachment' has been worn out, and even
> if used would only result in another non-choice between different
> puppets. 
>
> The solution we need is to:
>
> 1. Put the perps of that invasion on trial for the world to see
>
> 2. Apologize to everyone that's been harmed by their action (and our
> inaction) and set about doing everything we can to make amends
>
> 3. Remove money from politics and transfer power to a real democracy
>
>
> We're never going to see the end of terrorism. Human nature is ruled by
> Yin/Yang, the opposites. Whenever one rises to challenge, the other will
> rise to respond. These rises and responses are now being called
> terrorism by one side or the other, but it's really the same behavior
> that has characterized the history of mankind. The only thing that's
> really different now is the weapons have become too powerful and too
> readily available. What we can do is work real hard to put the weapons
> away and harness the energy of the opposites for the sake of progress.
> There's any number of things that should be capturing our imagination,
> and not a one of them is war.
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
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