> > What happens when VFP will no longer run on Windows? You can't expect > users to run old and unsupported Operating Systems. The Bean Counters > will never allow it. >
During a M$ Vista Rollout presentation our folks from M$ advised that "all you have to do is use Virtual PC 2007". Uhm, let me see. I have to use Vista (or whatever replaces it in 12 years), and license XP, and beef the PC up something fierce to run VPC to get my older stuff to run? Then again, it is a viable solution other than the additional license and hardware (RAM) cost. If I am going to do all that why not just use Linux with VMWare Server running 2000 Pro and call it a day? Or, better yet, for those apps I can handle VFP compiled apps under Linux, use Crossover Office/WINE? M$ has certainly left a lot of questions hanging for the relatively small (hence insignificant) group of folks who have chosen to remain VFP coders. Like several others on this list, I have a large investment in my VFP apps, and to maintain my current apps, while recoding in Dabo, is no small chore. Very expensive in terms of delayed turnarounds for custom requests from clients, and I can't really pursue new clients (abandoned opportunity revenue/profit) if I undertake a mass migration. Then again, this may be the least bad time for me to bite the bullet, before I do grow too large to even consider a migration. My migration direction at this point looks like it will be PostgreSQL on the back end (Zero License Fees, commercial use or otherwise) and Dabo & Python for the Front End. Gil > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert Jennings > Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 1:35 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Another life after VFP thread? > > > Dave, > > What happens when VFP will no longer run on Windows? You can't expect > users to run old and unsupported Operating Systems. The Bean Counters > will never allow it. > > Ditto to the Big Number point. I think I've been rather conservative > too! :o( > > You certainly have taken your hand to many area's and the awards are > well deserved. > > We are concentrating on a part of the market that the company was > founded in and key members of staff have many, many, many years in that > area. "Know the user, know the task!" (boy does that saying keep > rattling around in my head!) > > We will have to migrate somewhere as we want to be around providing our > customers our unique products for many many years to come. Each system > we sell has a possible 20-30 year lifespan! > > If I can keep everything in VFP then I'll be very happy but I just don't > think that is possible. However, can these provide a ray of light? > > http://www.etecnologia.net/ > http://www.vulcandotnet.com/ > > Surely keeping the status quo with my software and compiling into a .NET > app surely is the least painful path? This will ensure I can spend time > providing solutions to my customers with the Fantastic Tool that is VFP. > > Regards > > > Robert Jennings > Development and Computer Services Manager > Marine Software > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Dave Bernard > Posted At: 02 April 2007 17:56 > Posted To: Profox Archive > Conversation: Another life after VFP thread? > Subject: RE: Another life after VFP thread? > > > Robert- > > What a well-thought-out and well-written email. > > Many folks have recently focused on what particular language/tool to > which they "need" to switch due to recent events. Your focus on the > business issues at hand is refreshing and right on target, IMHO. "There > are no technical problems, only business problems." > > Your $400K number is very similar to the $500K number I've had as a > working cost to bring our development capabilities in .NET up to par > with what we can already do in VFP; and I truly believe that is a > conservative number. > We're a small company, and that is a big number. > > I can speak very clearly for our company; there will be no "conversions" > to .NET with existing products and services because it makes no business > sense (for us). Period. > > While we do occasional .NET work, we are paid for every bit of it. Same > with LAMP work; same with C++ work. > > But most of our existing work is with VFP, and will continue as long as > it makes good business sense. We have won multiple awards in the last 12 > months for our work (see the news on our site) which is underpinned by > VFP throughout. We will be sponsors for two VFP conferences this year > (FoxForward and SWFox) and continue to grow our staff of VFP developers. > > > Dave Bernard > The Intellection Group, Inc. > http://www.IntellectionGroup.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Robert Jennings > Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 12:30 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Another life after VFP thread? > > Hi all, > > I don't often get time to read the profox list as I'm busy with my head > in code, providing solutions to problems posed by customers. > > I think that the thread has certainly brought up many thoughts and > discussions of languages. It may be fine for a programmer who goes from > company to company to pick up lots of languages and write software in > them (Which is fine) but my problem is that I have applications that I > have out in the Market, we have over a thousand sites/ships using our > software. > > Prior to 2000 the company had software written in Clipper running in > DOS. > VFP was the natural progression to provide the software on the Windows > Platform. (yes a rewrite was required from the ground up) Saying that, > it took 2 years to Migrate 1 application from Clipper to VFP. > > <snip> > > > [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
