Pete Theisen wrote: > On Monday 14 May 2007 7:03 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: > <snip> >>> In other words, they have a choice among possibilities, but undoing the >>> choice between God and the devil, that choice is past >> And all these details and stuff. Are they in the Bible? And if not, >> where did you come upon them? Who was chosen by god so as to tell >> him/her about all this gossip. > > Hi Ricardo! > > This is *Catholic* Church doctrine. The Catholic theologians came to these > conclusions by studying not only the bible, but other religious books,
You mean books from other religions? But the doctrine says that only Catholicism is the true religion. > teachings of the saints over the years and the like. But saints are people who did saintly things and where canonized, they are no prophets, they have no 'authority' about heavenly politics. > It is not a high > obligation of Catholics to believe every detail of this as far as I know. It is a whole structure of beliefs. If you don't believe a piece then the whole comes down. If you get to decide what to believe and what not then I could decide not to believe in the holiness of Jesus, or in the virginity of Mary, or in the lack of horns of Joseph. >The > wikipedia article has some of the scripture references if this interests you. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil_in_Christianity > > I am Presbyterian, which is similar to Catholic in some respects. There is a > basic understanding that Presbyterians will believe that Jesus is the Lord > and Savior and beyond that Presbyterians are free to follow their own > conscience with regard to moral decisions. Presbyterians believe Jesus is the Lord of what? And the savior of whom? Is that the only requisite to be called Presbyterian? Do you have to believe in god, or is Jesus enough? _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
