Sunni Arab countries don't want to see the US cut and run from Iraq.  They
are frightened by the growing threat of Iran; because, Leland, unlike the
US, Iran is a country run by a terrifying and extremist God.

And Bill, believe it or not Israeli's would love to give back the west bank
territories and dismantle the Jewish settlements, which, ironically would
align them with most of their Sunni neighbors.  Iran on the contrary has no
interest in peace in Palestine.  Of course any peace is unlikely to unfold.
Israel is too weak politically and the Palestinians seem intent on killing
each other.  There is no room for an international peace keeping
intervention.

Yes, Ed the US army needs more money and men, which in this climate they
will not get.

What Iraq really needs is for a rational and strong Sunni leader to emerge
in order to forge a true government of national unity.

None of this has happened but I can't see anyone of any political stripe
drawing comfort from this,  except perhaps Iran and radical jihadists.
Graham

>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Behalf Of Ed Leafe
>Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 8:09 AM
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>On Jun 23, 2007, at 1:27 AM, Graham Dobson wrote:
>
>> I think there is also a moral obligation not to abandon Iraq.  A
>> failed
>> state in the heart of the middle east will be a breeding ground for
>> terrorists to launch attacks around the world.
>
>       Oh, so you must have been opposed to the removal of Saddam, since
>anyone with even a bit of knowledge of the region knew that only his
>ruthlessness was able to hold together that unstable mix of divergent
>interests. All military assessments before the invasion agreed that
>it would take a very strong military presence to maintain the order
>that Saddam was able to keep.
>
>       The reason that Iraq is such a mess now is that the Bush
>Administration did not heed the advice of its own military experts
>and instead followed the PNAC vision of an American-controlled state
>in the ME automatically bringing stability to an unstable region. And
>now we are supposed to continue to follow the advice of the people
>who got us into this completely avoidable mess and trust them to get
>us out. Sorry, this isn't baseball; you don't get three strikes.
>
>-- Ed Leafe
>-- http://leafe.com
>-- http://dabodev.com
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