At 07:57 AM 11/13/2007 -0500, Ed Leafe wrote:
...
>         Well, that's a great way to turn off a number of potential users.
>I'd still like them to be able to check out the Dabo Runtime Engine,
>which doesn't require admin privileges to install.
...

No tech help here, just some comments.

Watching this thread, it really hits home how stupid the Windows OS has 
become. A PC was supposed to be a powerful tool for users to ply to their 
individual style and needs. In fact, the most benefit reaped from PCs was 
when the environment facilitated those things. Nowadays, because of stupid 
Windows OS design (security holes, MS licensing, etc), the corporate 
environment has been basically thrown back to the old mainframe days. Now, 
the PC is a "locked down" resource and you're once again forced into things 
the way 'corporate' decides. Supposedly no new applications can be made to 
a machine (well, MS can change it anytime they want of course, and they 
have - even with auto-updates turned off).

I think if you can get something working on Windows without going through 
the registry (or other potentially "locked down" part of the computer) it 
would be an incredible advantage to the application. It brings back some of 
the freedom and power the PC originally promised. But you realize you're 
flying in the face of what MS wants: that is, eventually, a fee for every 
time the user clicks a button or presses a key on the keyboard.

>         I've decided that I would just alter the README file to include a
>blurb about changing the system PATH variable to include the location
>of daborun.exe if they want to work from the command line.

This is probably the best you can do in an Windows environment. Provided 
details about what is really technically needed for an application is one 
of most "friendly" things a developer can do. Again, however, this flies in 
the face of MS guidelines that generally tries to hide as much as possible 
from users... and even technical folks.

I hope you get it working on Windows. And I hope that in doing so you'll be 
able to eventually pry them away from it to something better like Linux

Ya know, if I stay in the computer industry, I may try something a little 
novel (or maybe it's not....). Basically use a cross-platform tool to build 
the system. But, for the Windows version, turn off or slightly modify some 
features - telling the users supporting the system on Windows is a much 
larger burden for a vendor. If they move to Linux, they'll get the full 
feature set... etc. After all, it's the applications that "sell" the OS - 
even though MS is trying to brainwash everyone into thinking the opposite.

:-)

-Charlie



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