> Gil -- are you trying to be like Switzerland and remain neutral in the
> top-posting versus bottom posting flame wars?  I see you're doing a
> combination of both!!!! <g>

I like it "on top" <g>, I suppose...

I guess I just figure that every person in the ProFox group for any amount
of time has already seen my previous postings re: Symantec AntiVirus
Corporate (SAV).  I have offered a link to my ftp Server's public directory
where I have a document (written in MS Word no less) about how to configure
SAV v-10.x to allow it to run effectively and efficiently in Workstation,
Server and Networked environments.  So, as far as I am concerned, my pushing
my thoughts out onto our group would be like spitting into the wind - again
(and again, and again).  But, since you provoked me <g>, here is what I do
have to share...

Each time I see an article in the more popular computer magazines pitting
one AV solution against another, far more often than not it is the
Symantec/Norton version that gets the top honors.  When I see folks using a
free AV solution, and say they have not had any problems with it, I have to
wonder if that is because their solution simply isn't finding anything
either because the threats are not occurring on their machines (not likely
in a Windows world), or the threats are being missed (as indicated in the
articles I read from time to time).

I know this, I can't afford to get infected in any of my machines, and more
so I can't afford to pass an infection onto a client.  So even if I could
not have tuned SAV to run superbly on my machines, just for the confidence I
have in its ability to deflect attacks I will use it.  That said, whether it
is a concern about viruses, trojans, worms, adware, spyware, crimeware and
other general malware, no single solution is going to be 100% effective - so
I play the odds with as stacked a deck as I can.

When a machine is brought to me that has been successfully attacked (almost
always after someone let their AV subscription lapse, or someone visited a
porn site), I end up using no less than 4 licensed apps (Webroot Spy
Sweeper, CA AntiSpyware, PC Tools Spyware Doctor and either Norton AV or
SAV), plus Ad-Aware and Spybot to clean it up.  I take the time to image the
affected drive both before and after the cleanup, thus if I goober up a
system while trying to clean it I can always go back to the beginning, and
once cleaned if it gets trashed again I can get the PC back t the most
recent running version.  I have found that once I have a machine cleaned up,
and install either Norton AV or SAV, the machine stays clean as long as the
subscriptions are kept up to date.  Oh, I do encourage the use of FireFox,
and promote Safe Surfing Behavior (no LimeWire, porn, social gathering
sites, gaming sites, etc.).

So, with all that said, here is the link to my ftp Server's public
directory:

ftp://gilhale.dnsalias.com

If you are using a browser, hit it at ftp://gilhale.dnsalias.com (in IE make
certain you are NOT running in Passive Mode)

The directory with the SAV documents is
"SymantecAntiVirusInstallationDocumentation", and the *.doc files contain
the info I put together to help folks install and configure SAV, to include
Screen Shots (for version 10.x).  SAV v-11.x is now the previous Symantec
Client Security Corporate on steroids, which includes some firewall and
content filtering capabilities if I recall correctly.  I have licensed SAV
v-11.0, but have not taken the time to play with it as 10.x is still working
quite nicely.

To wrap up, I find tremendous merit in the Mac/Linux platforms, where a
person really has to try hard to get intentionally nailed with a threat to
the Host OS.  But, being stuck in a World Of Windows, running a guest Win OS
under Mac/Linux would require AV defenses t be present in said Guest OS
environment.  Even Mac/Linux can't extend its safety into a weak guest OS.
So, even if I did get a Mac to use, to protect my Windows guest OS platforms
I would still need to run SAV.  There is no escape.  Shame...

Gil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of MB Software Solutions
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:10 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [NF] For / Against Norton
>
>
> mrgmhale wrote:
> >> so my opinions are out-of-date.
> >>
> >
> > But of value in any case.
> >
> > Gil
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
>
>
> Gil -- are you trying to be like Switzerland and remain neutral in the
> top-posting versus bottom posting flame wars?  I see you're doing a
> combination of both!!!! <g>
>
>
> --
> Michael J. Babcock, MCP
> MB Software Solutions, LLC
> http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com
> http://fabmate.com
> "Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions!"
>
>
>
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