On Friday, April 11, 2008 10:16 AM Bill Arnold wrote:

>I understand that you don't understand, but what I don't understand is
the MS-lackey role you're playing. MS doesn't give a hoot about >us,
they just managed to painted themselves into a corner with VFP.
Evidentially MS's plan all along was to buy out and kill VFP, but 
>the VFP team delivered a great product, which flew right in the face of
Bill Gates'
>plan to build around Basic from day 1. The whole .NET/CLR thing brought
this to a head because at that time MS was forced to finally 
>choose between the Basic and xBase paradigms because .NET had to go one
way or the other. The decision was pre-ordained and Basic got 
>the nod and VFP the boot. 

Sorry, you don't remember the history of the purchase of VFP by MSFT.
In the begging, there were 3 Xbase products - dBase, FoxBASE, and
Clipper.  Borland bought Ashton-Tate (haven't heard that name in a
while).  MSFT bought Fox Software shortly afterwards and CA bought
Clipper.  We should be grateful that the best of the bunch (IMHO) was
not killed by MSFT like the other 2 companies did with the other
products.  At the time I thought it was a very positive thing for the
Fox product to have the MSFT resources.  Also, I remember at that time,
Dr. Dave being interviewed about the future where you would have a
single UI and the developer would get to choose which language to best
use for the purpose of the application.  Sounds like Visual Studio when
it went from a suite of products to a single product (.NET).  Yes, I
think there was some political more than technical issue with VFP not
being part of the CLR.  I think they just figured it was too hard and it
was too much like VB without the built in database engine.

>MS isn't on our side, unless of course we get into their fold and
re-write for .NET. MS's latest/last move with VFP have been crafted 
>for one reason: to keep the company from being sued by people like me
who bought into their sales pitch when they assimilated VFP and 
>invested heavily in the FoxPro product development system - only to
discover years (and many hundreds of thousands of dollars) later
> that they had an ulterior motive all along. Had they been honest and
up-front about their plan, we wouldn't be in the position we're 
>in today.

Ask the folks who went to the DevCon in Florida (I missed it) where MSFT
hijacked the keynotes with .NET presentations...  The writings have been
on the wall for a while that MSFT focus is .NET and not VFP... 

>What they did, in my mind, was totally underhanded but typical
behavior.
>It is with much irony that I admire Bill Gates, but I certainly do not
like and will not accept being one of his victims.

You always have that choice...

>You want to promote MS, fine, but from my point of view you don't
belong here.

Who elected you president?

>To anyone else, my effort is to identify and capitalize on VFP's
strength in the marketplace and get around the obstacles MS has 
>created.
>We do have options, despite what MS and their lackeys are saying. 

Agreed.

David L. Crooks



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