We're not begging for money, we're looking to offer grants that are being way 
underutilized. 

A college president will look for more funding opportunities.  The problem with 
SBIR and STTRs is that many of them are going to the big Universities and the 
small colleges aren't applying for them at all.

The argument is that only the big universities get these grants because they 
are given these grants by reputation, but we're trying to prove that the little 
universities don't get the grants because they don't apply for them.

 


--- On Sat, 6/28/08, Stephen Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Stephen Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [NF] need a targeted email list with universities, dean's name, 
> dean's email
> To: "ProFox Email List" <[email protected]>
> Date: Saturday, June 28, 2008, 10:14 AM
> On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 3:33 AM, Michael Madigan
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I hate not being able to do a good job.  This guy was
> given 3 weeks to do it and I was given 12 man-hours to do
> it.
> >
> > I know I can't even get a data entry clerk to
> enter more than 20 collection records an hour and that data
> is right in front of them and they don't have to search
> for it.
> >
> > So I spent 2 hours tonight building the list by hand. 
> I got 26 records in 2 hours.  Some were missing email
> addresses, some were missing phone numbers, almost all were
> missing fax numbers.
> >
> > In other words, the data is almost useless.  Not every
> college publishes email addresses.  Additionally some of
> these colleges have no technical curriculum, so we could be
> sending a survey on technical research to seminary colleges,
> since there's no time to research the curriculum of each
> school.
> >
> > So to collect 400 records, it's going to take
> approximately another 28 hours and I'm only authorized
> to work 20 hours a week.
> >
> > Additionally, I talked to my direct mail guy and he
> said the whole email campaign is going to be useless
> anyway.  He said the response rate is tiny, and many of the
> emails will either get caught by a spam filter or will be
> tossed out by the user.  He recommended a nice letter with
> nice letterhead and a second and third letter followup for
> those who don't respond.
> >
> > I can buy a list of all 18,000 colleges and
> universities in the country for $2900 from InfoUSA.  I can
> get my direct mail guy to send them for about $0.50 a piece
> for plain white paper in a window envelope, more for fancier
> paper.  So for $11,900 I can hit every college president in
> the country.  If we get a 3% response, we'll have 540
> good responses.
> >
> -------------------------------------------
> 
> A snail mail consultant said that email wouldn't work? 
> Get out of here!
> 
> Ok how do you defeat the lack of email addy if you have
> their name?
> Find any faculty chair's page and they will give you
> the university's
> rule on email names.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  or
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Just because you can't find something.
> 
> Now can you find a list of University Leadership? Where you
> can pull
> the name and U off ?  Then you just make 3 passes at the
> person's
> name.
> 
> Now what is the quality that you are sending them?  Is your
> subject
> going to pass through spam filters?  Will their secretary
> pass int on
> because it has value to them?
> 
> No matter letter on wonderful paper or an email, you have
> to get
> through the human filter that owns the desk in front of
> your target
> audience.
> 
> Expect 1/2 of one percent.  Your begging for money in very
> tight budget times.
> 
> If your looking for research $ this is not at all how to go
> about it.
> Or so says my friend a professor in civil engineering.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Stephen Russell
> Sr. Production Systems Programmer
> Mimeo.com
> Memphis TN
> 
> 901.246-0159
> 
> 
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