Bob Calco wrote: >> Let's go for the most obvious, you say you believe in democracy. > > No, I have said many times I believe in *republican* government and am > skeptical of democracy, particularly its purer flavors.
But my challenged friend... Republic comes from "res publica" (that's latin you know? as in Latin America? hehe) and it only defines a state where people have impact on their government. It doesn't even require that all people have impact, just citizens. And we may define a citizen as we wish (e.g. someone who owns land, or born from a patrician family). So "republican" is a relatively poor description of a system. >> and there >> are "democratic" ways to change governments and political orientation >> of >> the country. Yet they are happy with their system and they like it that >> way. Where is the tyranny there? > > People can like tyranny too. It brings comfort, certainty, stability. Indeed > it is only after a long train of abuses that peoples generally throw off an > oppressive government. So long and for so long as it's the people's wish... > >> If you object the ruling of the majority so does Bill G. when he says >> anti-trust laws are "a form of statism" and that it is tyrannical to >> prevent him from forming monopolies. > > I am not talking about majority rule being bad, but when the majority uses > its power to oppress a minority. You mean like in the times of senator McCarthy? Or are you referring to the patriot's act? > > Our form of government is the only one I'm aware of with the required checks > and balances -- three branches of government, bicameral legislature, federal > vs. local levels of government, etc. -- to prevent majority faction while > paradoxically enforcing majority rule. Then I'm saddened to tell you that you are aware of very little of the affairs of the world. > the extra-constitutional institution of the two party system figured out how > to circumvent it. > > It's a subtle point you're not likely to get, given how prone you are to > gross oversimplification. So sorry bwana. > Anecdotal. At my theatre they cheered when the aliens were defeated. Where > were you when you saw it? Hollywood? South Chicago? Moscow? Pakistan? > Are you being purposefully obtuse? Of course they cheered at your theatre, it was in the US. Go visit the rest of America and you may learn a few things (if you dare to stop hiding behind your dollars shield). > If you spent a little time actually familiarizing yourself with my real > views you'd realize I'm not the caricature you want to think I am. > >> I usually think that if my neighbour hates me it must be something >> wrong >> with him, but if MOST my neighbours hate me then there must be >> something >> wrong with me. > > Maybe you just live in a bad neighborhood. Then I'd move.... When are you people getting out of the solar system for good? > >>> Worrying what my friends thought of me never got me anywhere in life. >> So why do you keep justifying your country? If you don't care then shut >> up. > > Why are you constantly accusing it? If life is so much better in Denmark, > and that's the happiest place on the globe, just move there and shut up. > Cause I live in Argentina, and I love it here. Much better than both Denmark and US. _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
