> Ubuntu is the
> first ( of many, many attempts ) distribution I have tried that has passed
> my personal "is it ready for prime time?" test,

Dave, I am so glad you have also found Ubuntu to be worthy of use.

For those who do not know, Dave and I have been friends for quite a few
years.  He and I have very well suited overlapping strengths in our skill
sets, and where the are "underlaps" we have always been very quick to rush
to the aid of each other when called upon.  For years I saw Dave as one
Linux Guru I could always count on to help provide guidance, whereas I think
in his mind he was more apt to think he was not so much a guru as he was
just a few good clicks (or more <g>) ahead of my experience curve with
Linux.  Over the past year I have picked up a lot of Linux experience with
Suse and Ubuntu, which means I am perpetually realizing how much more there
is to learn yet as I plod through the World of Linux (and Mac,
concurrently).

In that journey through the Land Of Linux I settled into Ubuntu as my Linux
flavor of choice.  To see Dave say it is the first distro he accepts as
really being ready for prime time (which may or may not be the same as an
endorsement) lends strong credibility in support of my choice in using
Ubuntu.  And knowing how hard it is for Dave to be truly satisfied with any
OS or application (he is not picky, he just expects things to work as
advertised and claimed), well I feel like the student who finally has been
told by a master that, "You have chosen well, Grasshoppa."  It counts for a
lot.

So, now I have "Dave's Blessing" on Ubuntu in general.  "Big deal", you ask?
What next?  It just gives me more incentive to start looking at carving out
some serious time to start dealing with the VFP under Linux via
WINE/CrossOver Office effort - a project once successfully engaged in by Ed
Leafe (with me watching) a few years ago with Red Hat.  Now I want to pursue
it under Ubuntu so I can prepare for life with VFP beyond XP, when XP is no
longer easy to get my paws on for clients.  Just part of my longer run plan
to migrate to Dabo/Python - except I may just make the jump to Linux instead
of staying in Windows at first when I make the Great Leap Forward & Out.  My
next step is to take a new SATA HDD I just received, pop it into my Dell
sc420 Server that is currently running Suse Enterprise Linux v-10 (4Gb RAM,
P4 2.8 Dual Code CPU, multiple 73Gb SCSI HDD units, nice setup), then
install Ubuntu 8.04 onto the new SATA Boot Drive (keeping the original SATA
HDD on hand in case I dork the Ubuntu installation and have to quickly get
the sc420 lit up again).  I would have normally just installed Ubuntu on top
of Suse, but this is a production server with which I have a narrow
timeframe of opportunity to do the cutover.  If it gets dorked I must get it
back to its current baseline pronto, without having to run TAR to restore
Suse on top of the Ubuntu effort.

Anyway, that is now today's project.  Install Ubuntu on the Suse Server,
install & configure PostgreSQL, Tomcat, VNC, configure & light up SAMBA
shares for Windows accessibility, migrate our web site hosting files onto
the Ubuntu Server, configure the LAN card with dual IPs (local and DMZ),
place my production VFP database files onto said Ubuntu Server, cross my
fingers, click my heels and hope like hell it all lights up first time.
Fun, fun, fun.


Gil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Smith
> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 7:43 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [NF] Microsoft slips Novell another tenth of a billion
>
>
> I'm running the same setup as you, and it has been great. Ubuntu is the
> first ( of many, many attempts ) distribution I have tried that has passed
> my personal "is it ready for prime time?" test, which is, I never have to
> touch the command line to do what I want to do. Ever. That's not to say I
> don't go in there for the fun of it, but that I don't have to
> makes all the
> difference.
>
> David Smith
> Systems Administrator
> Doan Family of Dealerships
> (585) 352-6600 ext.1730
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.upstatedigitools.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Jeff Johnson
> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 7:36 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [NF] Microsoft slips Novell another tenth of a billion
>
> I did the same thing with my HP TX1000.  Most of the features worked with
> Ubuntu out of the box, but some things still don't work with XP.
> The laptop was designed for Vista and came with Vista and some of the
> drivers are not available for XP.  I often wondered how Ubuntu had the
> drivers but XP does not.
>
> On my desktop I only installed Ubuntu and am running XP and (will
> run) Vista
> (for testing) in Virtual Box.
>
> I might note that the level of support from the Linux community is
> tremendous whenever I have encountered a problem.
>
> Jeff
>
> Jeff Johnson
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> SanDC, Inc.
> 623-582-0323
> Fax 623-869-0675
>
> Phoenix Python User Group - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Ed Leafe wrote:
> > On Aug 20, 2008, at 6:29 PM, Gil Hale wrote:
> >
> >> I just turned my HP ze2000 laptop into a dual-boot XP Pro/Ubuntu
> >> Linux machine the other night. I guess I got boted <g>.  Seriously,
> >> now I surf fearlessly on the laptop.  I was surprised at how easily
> >> the laptop accepted Ubuntu 8.04, and how all WiFi and Ethernet
> >> connectivity just plain old worked.  Very smooth.
> >
> >     Please don't tell people this. You're smashing their comforting
> image
> > of using the only trouble-free OS available: Windows. They want to
> > believe that anything else is difficult to install and use, and won't
> > work with most hardware. So please stop bursting their bubbles.
> >
> > -- Ed Leafe
> >
>
>
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