On Aug 31, 2008, at 3:00 PM, John wrote:

> Nah, we really are. I lied. We have meetings and talk about new  
> tactics we
> can use to deprive people of their rights. . . .


        Yes, you do. These plans are coordinated by the FBI, and are the  
result of the domestic spying program:

        http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/08/31/raids/index.html
        ( -or- http://tinyurl.com/6rpt7x )

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So here we have a massive assault led by Federal Government law  
enforcement agencies on left-wing dissidents and protesters who have  
committed no acts of violence or illegality whatsoever, preceded by  
months-long espionage efforts to track what they do. And as  
extraordinary as that conduct is, more extraordinary is the fact that  
they have received virtually no attention from the national media and  
little outcry from anyone. And it's not difficult to see why. As the  
recent "overhaul" of the 30-year-old FISA law illustrated -- preceded  
by the endless expansion of surveillance state powers, justified first  
by the War on Drugs and then the War on Terror -- we've essentially  
decided that we want our Government to spy on us without limits. There  
is literally no police power that the state can exercise that will  
cause much protest from the political and media class and, therefore,  
from the citizenry.
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        They go on to compare these actions with those by the Chinese  
government during the recent Olympics:

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On August 2, The Post gravely warned:Behind the gray walls and barbed  
wire of the prison here, eight Chinese farmers with a grievance  
against the government have been consigned to Olympic limbo.
Their indefinite detainment, relatives and neighbors said, is the  
price they are paying for stirring up trouble as China prepares to  
host the Beijing Games. Trouble, the Communist Party has made clear,  
will not be permitted.
Would The Washington Post ever use such dark and accusatory tones to  
describe what the U.S. Government does? Of course it wouldn't. Yet how  
is our own Government's behavior in Minnesota any different than what  
the Chinese did to its protesters during the Olympics (other than the  
fact that we actually have a Constitution that prohibits such behavior)?
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        And we have this extraordinary item about a group being held captive  
by police *before* they had a warrant:

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Heres is the extraordinary blog item I linked to yesterday from Eileen  
Clancy, one of the founders of I-Witness Video -- a NYC-based video  
collective which is in St. Paul to document the policing of the  
protests around this week's Republican National Convention, just as  
they did at the 2004 GOP Convention in New York. Clancy wrote this as  
a plea for help, as the Police surrounded her house and (before they  
had a search warrant) told everyone inside that they'd be arrested if  
they exited the home:

This is Eileen Clancy . . . The house where I-Witness Video is staying  
in St. Paul has been surrounded by police. We have locked all the  
doors. We have been told that if we leave we will be detained. One of  
our people who was caught outside is being detained in handcuffs in  
front of the house. The police say that they are waiting to get a  
search warrant. More than a dozen police are wielding firearms,  
including one St. Paul officer with a long gun, which someone told me  
is an M-16.

We are suffering a preemptive video arrest. For those that don't know,  
I-Witness Video was remarkably successful in exposing police  
misconduct and outright perjury by police during the 2004 RNC. Out of  
1800 arrests, at least 400 were overturned based solely on video  
evidence which contradicted sworn statements which were fabricated by  
police officers. It seems that the house arrest we are now under and  
the possible threat of the seizure of our computers and video cameras  
is a result of the 2004 success.

[snip]

That sounds like what it was: a cry for help from a hostage. Hours  
later, the Police finally obtained a search warrant -- for the wrong  
house, one adjacent to the house where they were being detained -- and  
nonetheless broke in, pointing guns, forced them to lay on the floor  
and handcuffed everyone inside (and handcuffed a National Lawyers  
Guild attorney outside). They searched the house, arrested nobody, and  
then left.
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        The Police State is here and is running unchecked. None of you "good  
ol' boy" folksy "aw shucks" quips change that fact.


-- Ed Leafe





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