> > Bob, > > > I sincerely wish I could understand why you're so certain the > > change he's promising is the change you're going to get. > > I'm not that stupid. When I voted for other presidents I didn't get > quite > what I thought. Surely the Bush voters weren't expecting a nation- > building > effort in Iraq, or adding over 5 trillion dollars to the debt, or a > financial system meltdown. > > What makes you think you can 'get' anything but a human being with a > temperament, skill set, and thought process you value when you vote for > president?
Point taken. Let's talk about those skill sets and temperaments. I guess it boils down for me to this: In a time of war and economic uncertainty I will take a cantankerous, somewhat feisty, ideologically impure but fundamentally patriotic war hero--someone whose had his ego broken in and kicked around a bit by life--any day over a cocky, slick, over-ambitious messianic cult figure with a totally unexplained history of associating with radicals who hate our country any day. I'm not even trying to be funny. That's exactly how I see it. With McCain I see someone with a track record of pissing off even his base and his party, and someone fundamentally capable of making compromises with people he totally disagrees with. Obama has no such track record. He's as ideologically pure as they come with a 100% liberal rating. He picked a running mate whose the opposite of the change he's advertising and who has a 97% liberal rating, and is quite possibly even less humble and verbally disciplined. He has zero executive experience. He's run a (frighteningly) effective campaign, but that's totally not the same thing--by a long stretch--as governing. Bush also ran impressive, money-making campaigns that steamrolled the opposition. Obama sees himself as a messiah figure (not unlike Bush). He has zero humility (about the same amount Bush had before the Washington establishment turned on him in 2005), and knows who his enemies are (like Bush). He was trained in the tactics of Saul Alinsky, and that's really scary. For example he promised to take public financing and live within its constraints if McCain did. McCain did, but he decided to abandon that pledge when the $$$ kept rolling in. This is dishonest in the extreme, the opposite of the "new kind of politics" he talks about. More to the point: one of Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" is to trick your opponent into obeying their own rules. Check that. His campaign has been negative but it certainly doesn't have to be--the entire media establishment (except for Fox) is doing his slimy name-calling, muck-raking character assassination for him, particularly against Gov. Palin. Here is a good woman who has accomplished more than Obama as an executive who does not deserve the horrific treatment she's gotten on any level, whatever you think of her view on life or marriage. I don't know Krystine. I am honestly not able to equate anything positive with the kind of change I see plainly in Obama's meteoric rise. I'm well aware of McCain's flaws, but I don't get the feeling he thinks he's got all the answers and I admit he's a sucky campaigner. Bush has disappointed me on a lot of levels but the vitriol, relentless character attacks (the movie W is just plain awful, a caricature that pretends to be documentary), this four year campaign to make him a villain he's plainly not, which is culminating in the cult-like, mindless goose-stepping popularity of a man with a very mysterious past and a plainly disingenuous platform (I'm referring here to his economic plan mainly), who will have a partisan supermajority consisting of the people who contributed most to the current crisis, raises every red flag and fire alarm I can think of. - Bob _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.

