David Hicks was rightfully detained. From what we know he was in a terrorist
training camp. The argument has always been one of due process - or the lack
thereof. The 'trial process' was an utter disgrace and reminiscent of USSR
show trials. I honestly don't know what the problem is with conducting
trials of alleged terrorists under US Criminal law or even the harsher
military law. But for some perverse reason, the USA wants some tribunal
system which by any measure is unjust and unfair. The first version of these
didn't even allow for legal representation. America has come off looking
just like a bad-tempered bully with suspect morals. I expect better and grew
up SEEING better. On 9/11 much of the world gave the USA their unconditional
support. Now we just hoep you can recapture the essence of democracy and
fair play and justice that the ensuring 7 years took away.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Alan Lukachko
Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 8:31 AM
To: 'ProFox Email List'
Subject: RE: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?

Not sure about David Hicks, but the Canadian did not "bear arms or engage in
hostile action against" against the U.S. Even the U.S. military has
recognized that.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Pete Theisen
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 5:15 PM
> To: ProFox Email List
> Subject: Re: [OT] 25 billion won't do it?
> 
> Geoff Flight wrote:
> > We had the same thing with David Hicks - who lives in my city.   I've no
> > sympathy for his actions which were stupid but the  denial of due
> process
> > and the use of torture simply makes the USA look like another second-
> rate
> > dictatorship in the eyes of the world. Obama's promise to end Guantanamo
> is
> > a good thing. Capture all the terrorists your want - but give them due
> > process
> 
> Hi Geoff!
> 
> What's due process for an enemy combatant? Is it not incarceration for
> the remainder of hostilities?
> 
> Suck it up, terrorists, the war on terror continues as long as there are
> acts of terror against us or our interests. So you die in captivity, no
> one asked you to bear arms or engage in hostile action against us.
> --
> Regards,
> 
> Pete
> http://pete-theisen.com/



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