> 
> Why are others looking into virtual?  $$ or copy paste to new device?
>

I have saved over $40k going to this architecture thus far, and had I needed
to license VirtualCenter it would have only added maybe $3k more.  $57k
would have been my cost with all physical machines vs $17k current cost with
ESXi - and that includes some hardware unrelated to ESXi other than me
playing with VMware's other offerings first.  Cheap any way one slices it.
Plus I am using it as a quick way to recover from a machine loss, where I
have copies of my VMs on a 2nd machine's backup drive (as well as a
duplicate of all production VMs on both ESXi Servers.  In my case a Dell
EqualLogic iSAN would be real nice, but totally needless.  If I end up
having over 8 or 10 ESXi Servers, then an iSAN and VirtualCenter would begin
to make sense.


Gil

 
 
Gilbert M. Hale
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:profoxtech-
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephen Russell
> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 12:09 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [NF] VMware ESXi Server, and other VMware virtualization
> solutions
> 
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Peter Cushing <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> 
> >
> > Gilbert M. Hale wrote:
> > > Greetings!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > For anyone interested in virtualization for running multiple
> concurrent
> > > machines on a host system, this is for you!  Anyone else is invited
> to
> > read
> > > and store the info for later.  I am hoping to fend off grief for
> folks
> > > seeking virtual Nirvana.
> > >
> > > <Snip>
> > >
> >
> > Very interesting Gil,
> >
> > We've been doing a bit of virtualisation here.  Well actually my boss
> > has been doing most of it and I've just stood there looking
> interested :-)
> >
> > We liked the idea of being independent of the hardware so that if it
> > fails we can get up and running very quickly.  We have virtualised a
> few
> > servers using Vmware including my back office VFP app which prints
> and
> > emails jobs all day.  We don't think that ESXi is the way to go for
> us
> > as the hardware has to be a lot more specific to be able to run that
> > OS.  We want to be able to run the VM stuff on any half decent
> machine
> > and be up and running quickly.  You were saying you got lucky with
> your
> > hardware but we don't want to take any chances.  My boss also thinks
> the
> > extra complexity of handling the OS layer makes it more difficult to
> > support in a small IT department like ours.
> > ----------------------
> 
> 
> We are going to look into virtualization as well.  Costs are so high
> that we
> probably won't do it.  Looking at taking SS for a variety of clients
> and
> putting small ones on a virtual machine instead of the little mini
> servers
> we have for each one.
> 
> Takes 8 underused boxes into one Mega server, 16 cpu 32 gig ram to
> start
> maybe jacked up to 64 gig?
> 
> All data will be stored on a SAN or a killer raid that is fiber
> connected.
> 
> 
> The high end VMWare is costly but it allows us to really get the
> control
> between the virtual machines with respect to SQL Server.  Putting dbs
> int
> 2008 all us to throttle various process and back off on the little
> stuff
> like log shipping.
> 
> Why are others looking into virtual?  $$ or copy paste to new device?
> --
> Stephen Russell
> Sr. Production Systems Programmer
> SQL Server DBA
> Web and Winform Development
> Independent Contractor
> Memphis TN
> 
> 901.246-0159
> 
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