We've done that many times. Unfortunately we get into discussions with people 
who like to talk out their poopers. Kind of like that Federal Reserve argument.

The average American citizen likes their health care.  We don't need idiots 
from foreign lands to tell us otherwise.

The problem is that most people think other people aren't satisfied.  That came 
about by years of endless mind washing by the media. 

My solution is to offer low-cost, bare-bones health insurance to the uninsured, 
not to kill the best health care system on the planet.  If anyone thinks the 
American Government can do a better job than the current system, they've never 
had interaction with the IRS, Social Security, Division of Motor Vehicles, The 
US Postal Service, or any other entity where they hire low-intelligent slugs 
and give them jobs for life.

 


--- On Mon, 8/10/09, Philip Borkholder <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: Philip Borkholder <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [OT] Things that make you go "Hmmm"
> To: "ProFox Email List" <[email protected]>
> Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 12:07 PM
> Michael and Bob,
> I suggest you two critiques/complainers/name-callers,
> simply write your 
> own policy proposals here for once.
> You two are very quick to criticize, demonize and state
> that anyone that 
> disagrees with you <hates America>.
> It's easier to criticize than it is to stand on your own
> two feet and 
> propose viable alternatives.
> So let's hear some detailed viable alternatives here
> instead of always 
> being so negative and portraying yourselves as the only two
> individuals 
> in the universe that somehow <love America>.
> 
> Go ahead, try it for once.
> -Philip
> 
> Michael Madigan wrote:
> > He wants to remove any resemblance to America, not
> change things.
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> > --- On Sun, 8/9/09, Geoff <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> From: Geoff <[email protected]>
> >> Subject: RE: [OT] Things that make you go "Hmmm"
> >> To: "'ProFox Email List'" <[email protected]>
> >> Date: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 6:36 PM
> >> < A curious brand of cognitive
> >> dissonance.
> >>
> >> - Bob>
> >>
> >> an interesting notion for someone who claims Obama
> hates
> >> America because he
> >> wants to CHANGE things. 
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [email protected]
> >> [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> On Behalf
> >> Of Bob Calco
> >> Sent: Monday, 10 August 2009 4:11 AM
> >> To: 'ProFox Email List'
> >> Subject: RE: [OT] Things that make you go "Hmmm"
> >>
> >> Pete:
> >>
> >>     
> >>> Hi Michael,
> >>>
> >>> Clinton DID every chick he could. All Clinton
> cared
> >>>       
> >> about was his own
> >>     
> >>> s*x life.
> >>>
> >>> The video posted does not support the theory
> that
> >>>       
> >> Obama had "Union
> >>     
> >>> Thugs" start or participate in a fight. It
> looked like
> >>>       
> >> it was just an
> >>     
> >>> altercation between two individuals that
> spread to
> >>>       
> >> other guys, some of
> >>     
> >>> whom wore union shirts. Fights are like that.
> >>>
> >>> Clinton was indifferent to America. That is
> worse, far
> >>>       
> >> worse, than
> >>     
> >>> hating America. Obama is not indifferent, and
> he does
> >>>       
> >> not hate America
> >>     
> >>> but rather he hates inequality. I hate
> inequality.
> >>>       
> >> That is, you relate to him through envy, which
> explains
> >> your latent
> >> socialism.
> >>
> >> You are dead wrong about his attitude toward
> America, it
> >> was evident in
> >> everything he said, did and didn't say or didn't
> do during
> >> the campaign.
> >>
> >> America needs to be completely changed because it
> was
> >> wholly unacceptable to
> >> The One. Even his wife proclaimed, not once but
> twice, that
> >> she was never
> >> proud of her country in all of her adult life
> until it was
> >> obvious her
> >> husband was whooping Clinton's entitled arse in
> the
> >> primaries.
> >>
> >> All Obama loves is himself; he's a grade A
> narcissist, with
> >> sociopathic
> >> tendencies that will grow more evident as his
> One-ness is
> >> challenged.
> >>
> >>     
> >>> America is not supposed to be unequal, it has
> just
> >>>       
> >> evolved in that
> >>     
> >>> direction. The people who benefit from
> inequality are
> >>>       
> >> not what anyone
> >>     
> >>> would call deep thinkers - just the opposite.
> They
> >>>       
> >> typically think that
> >>     
> >>> whatever benefits them, no matter what
> detriment to
> >>>       
> >> others or the whole
> >>     
> >>> society, is right for America or indeed the
> world.
> >>>       
> >> America is founded on equality under the law,
> based on
> >> endowment by our
> >> Creator with certain inalienable rights, not
> equality of
> >> outcomes as
> >> measured by faceless government bureaucrats. You
> seem to
> >> relate to Obama's
> >> clear passion for the latter and hatred of America
> for
> >> those times it did
> >> not live up to its ideals. 
> >>
> >> So you're secretly pulling for him to be
> successful
> >> "leveling the field"
> >> even as you prepare to vote against him next
> go-round.
> >>
> >> A curious brand of cognitive dissonance.
> >>
> >> - Bob
> >>
> >>     
> >>>>>> Jean could have done a better job
> than
> >>>>>>         
>    
> >> Obama because
> >>     
> >>>>> Jean hates America less than Obama.
> >>>>>       
>    
> >>>>> Who was the last real patriot who
> held
> >>>>>       
>    
> >> office? Reagan?
> >>     
> >>>>> The usual thing is for them to line
> their own
> >>>>>       
>    
> >> pockets, and the
> >>     
> >>>>> pockets of their buddies. That's all
> Obama is
> >>>>>       
>    
> >> really about. In
> >>     
> >>>>> effect that is hating America, but not
> any
> >>>>>       
>    
> >> more than, say, Lyndon
> >>     
> >>>>> Johnson.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>       
>    
> >>>>>>>> I was completely wrong
> about that
> >>>>>>>>       
>          
> >> Obama guy:
> >>     
> >>>>>>> Told you so.......
> >>>>>>>       
>        
> >>> --
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Pete
> >>> http://pete-theisen.com/
> >>> http://elect-pete-theisen.com/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  [excessive quoting removed by server]

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