I provided a very long list of provisions in the bill, including page references, for which I was roundly criticized because apparently it was too much to read.
The concerns about features of the proposals (there isn't just one!) that give the government unprecedented (not to mention entirely un-Constitutional) power to redefine, in some profoundly undemocratic ways, every aspect of life and death from cradle to grave is not "smoke and mirrors." They are in there, in various provisions and wrapped in legalese, no matter how many times the NYT asserts they aren't. The CBO itself cannot come up with a plausible scenario in which this plan saves one red cent, yet the ostensible purpose is to reduce healthcare costs, so one has to wonder what the non-ostensible purpose might be, given the not-very-encouraging economic estimates about its non-existent cost savings. BTW, if Dr. E-Z-Kill Emmanuel's enlightened concept of "allocating" health care doesn't raise your eyebrows, you should take a look at Obama's "Science Fiction Czar," John Holdren, whose supposedly former views on forced abortions and sterilizations are even more strident than E-Z-Kill's views, though I bet these guys have a great ol' time plotting global population "downsizing" together. It's clear Team Obama isn't just a Death Panel; they're a veritable Death Squad, the "culture of death" back in full force, with every intent to seize the perceived "crisis" opportunity to implement their craziest ideas. Even if they have to water them down a bit to assuage the justifiable fears of the hoi polloi---whose numbers they have always sought, and continue to seek, to thin out. - Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Pete Theisen > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 3:27 PM > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: Re: [OT] This is what obama care will give us > > Philip Borkholder wrote: > > > There you go again. > > Do you <know> what an Advanced Directive is? > > > Hi Philip, > > There *you* go again. I *knew* you really hadn't read the five pages. > In > the earliest post Bob wrote on this topic, look 'em up, might still be > in your [OT] folder. You are assuming that "Advanced Directives" still > means what it used to mean. It isn't necessarily so! > > >> > >>> Michael (and all the other Chicken Littles out there) > >>> Advanced Directives are commonly discussed > >>> > >> Hi Philip, > >> > >> Oh! Well, why didn't someone say so! If it isn't called "euthanasia" > but > >> rather a buzzword or catchphrase such as "Advanced Directives" then > it > >> is just - killing the old or sick people. Silly us to dare object! > -- > Regards, > > Pete > http://pete-theisen.com/ > http://elect-pete-theisen.com/ > > [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
