On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 1:13 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Stephen Russell wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Pete Theisen <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> But "work ethic" nowadays isn't what is selling them. It is the low
>>> wages. The bosses aren't satisfied with being millionaires they want to
>>> be billionaires and expect everyone else to make it happen.
>
> Pete's not far off from the truth, though, Steve.  "The Indians do more
> for less, so why shouldn't the American IT worker?"  That doesn't fly.
>
>> --------------
>>
>> If you worked in tech you might have a clue about this.  Your replay
>> is taken out of the context of the thread for the conversation.  Like
>> Nike is the company.
>>
>> I am talking about any co that needs to get something built.  You hire
>> the people that understand your needs and deliver proven results.  No
>> brainer there right?
>>
>> My Indian coworkers <salary emp not by the hr> do not complain about
>> working nights and or weekends like Native USA residents do.  This
>> observation is based over 10 years at different companies with
>> different immigrants.  They just do it and don't complain.  Like Fri
>> afternoon they work hard from 2- (4,5) where Americans start to slack
>> off.
>>
>
>
> I love you like a brother, and will supp/drink with you anytime, but I
> must tell you that I think you're wrong on this.  ;-)  Yeah, you've
> definitely got some guys who bitch and the foreigners don't (as far as
> you know), but that still doesn't mean we should outsource jobs.  Your
> citings are not the norm (or at least I sure as hell hope not).  We all
> know guys who bitch about something, for sure.  And the work ethic of
> the Indians is notoriously good, but to label most American devs as
> inferior due to talent/work-ethic/etc is not right, imo.
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Have you had to take a test in your language or plural if
DBA/Developer type position?   I have had to BrainBench or other test
over and over again in round two with the headhunter, on who was
getting presented.  These people want to submit you but they can only
send in the top 2 or 3 scorers in the "test."  Sucks but that is how
gigs in 2008/9 were running.  The Indians scored well and were
presented.  A year ago at the bank contract I was one of a few white
contractors compared to my brown friends who held 80% or more of the
contractor seats.

Nashville had a similar mindset for testing as did Memphis.  It was rough.


> btw -- I'm dating this super hot Indian chick now.  She's a lawyer
> though...not a developer.  So I'm certainly not being racist or
> ignorant.  ;-)
------------------------

Great for you.  Can you eat her cooking yet?  Or are you not at that
stage in a relationship yet?

-- 
Stephen Russell
Sr. Production Systems Programmer
SQL Server DBA
Web and Winform Development
Independent Contractor
Memphis TN

901.246-0159


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