Yes people start to moan when its them. Never mind all the little shops gone
because the chosen way was wallmart for shopping. People demand cheaper
goods so it comes from abroad and when it's too late, moan about jobs going.
VFP jobs is another reason though, everyone thinks it's dead and has been
for a while. We know otherwise but the damage is done.
Al

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of MB Software Solutions, LLC
Sent: 09 October 2009 18:09
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [NF] Why programmers are not subject to protective labor laws
(from TechRepublic)

Stephen Russell wrote:
> I have worked with these "imports" for this past decade.  Most have an
> incredible work ethic, unlike most Americans.

Here we go again with that old broken record:  "Americans are lazy, 
foreigners work harder."  <barf>

> 
> You read the xBase and you focus on that only.  You have to see the
> bigger picture.  Just like blue collar workers today have a hard time
> making a living we too will have a hard time in the future.  Not
> because the plant closed.  It is because we are not good enough.  That
> was the point.

No, you missed the point obviously.  There was NO reference to xBase and 
as such I didn't focus on that.  It most certainly is not because we are 
or aren't good enough...we definitely have the talent to get the job 
done here....it's that we cost too much compared to the imported labor. 
  THAT'S the point.  It has NOTHING (or at least very little) to do with 
the level of competency (although that's the koolaid they're selling) 
and has EVERYTHING (or mostly) to do with the cost of labor.  "You have 
to see the big picture."  Um, yeah, and that picture is of foreign labor 
versus native labor and the cost savings they see by using the former. 
Any native countryman (be it whatever country you live in) should always 
chastise his native companies for using foreign labor instead of native 
labor.  It's a fundamental argument, here...regardless of whether we're 
talking about shipbuilders, programmers, textiles, or whatever.  And 
don't throw some shitty WalMart line out here to me because I absolutely 
buy local when I can before supporting companies who provide foreign 
goods.  I'm all for doing what you can to support the local economy 
first.  Keep your dollars working for you at home...wherever you call 
home.  I would expect citizens in ANY country to feel the same.

Bad....Steve.

-- 
Mike Babcock, MCP
MB Software Solutions, LLC
President, Chief Software Architect
http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com
http://fabmate.com
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