On 12/01/2009 11:17 AM, Pete Theisen wrote: > Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > >>> Well, in the case of the left, almost everything they say is a lie. You >>> confront them with that and you get denial. Thus, the difference is >>> academic at best, and serves only to deflect from the real issue. >>> >>> I confront you with the fact that the left has recently been caught in a >>> huge whopper and you go off on denial. That is denial, and it is a lie >>> as well. >> >> >> Your statement regarding scientists propagating a "huge >> whopper" is a little thin, if it's based on the article >> provided by Maximus who started the thread "Oops! Climate >> Change Data Dumped". The data was dumped during a move of >> the UEA’s Climatic Research Unit, so storage for newer data >> could be created. >> >> I'm sure data retention of global warming data has very >> limited retention values, as science advances in ways that >> provide much better data and models of the problem, so I'm >> having difficulty understanding how dumping old data that >> supported an old, less sophisticated models of global >> warming is a lie, eg (huge whooper). > > Hi Leland, > > How hiding data that shows the earth getting *cooler* the most recent > several years is "old data" boggles my imagination. But then, you didn't > read the article before you started shooting off your keyboard, so . . .
Anyway, the best evidence of global warming may be the physical evidence occurring today, rather than statistical studies about historical temperatures around the global, or testimony from the scientific community, who state the debate about global warning is over, and it's time to move on towards gaining a better understanding of the causes and effect and possible solutions to global warming. The physical evidence of global warming are the rapid deterioration of the polar regions of earth from melting ice and glaciers. This has occurred only recently, (eg only over the last 30 to 50 years), which make the change far to rapid to be normal cyclical changes the occur over thousands of years. In other words, something outside normal changes seem to be causing the melting of the polar region of earth. Also, the bleaching out of important reefs around the globe is very worrisome and probably linked to relatively recent changes in climate. The physical evidence is the best indication that we have a problem that must be addressed. http://www.worldviewofglobalwarming.org/ http://ecobridge.org/content/g_evd.htm http://www.icr.org/article/3233/ Regards, LelandJ _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
