These arguments are like a many-headed hydra. The fact is, man cannot control man, much less the weather. This whole charade is nothing more than a thinly veiled effort at the former, under the audacious pretense of the latter.
If indeed this is the culmination of human existence, that we conclude the air we exhale is a dangerous poison to the earth, and we must therefore inflict upon ourselves the fiercest economic punishment as a form of both distributive justice and corrective political remedy, mankind is pathetic indeed. All this in the name of humanism, no less. At moments like these it is helpful to remember this little blue ball whirls around the sun at the right distance to sustain life, only by the grace of God. "I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and, behold, all is vanity and vexation of spirit." (Ecclesiastes 1:14) In this case I like the Catholic translation as well: "... it is like chasing the wind." Or in this case, like chasing methane, ozone and carbon dioxide. Sigh. - Publius On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Michael Madigan <[email protected]> wrote: > Clearly man has made acid rain, ozone pollution (not ozone layer), smog, high > particulate matter in the atmosphere. If anything, the effects of man's > addition to the atmosphere would be cooling the Earth by blocking the > sunlight. > > But there isn't any agreement that carbon dioxide can trap heat. And > remember, any fossil fuels that we burn were created from plant matter that > extracted the carbon from carbon dioxide in the atmosphere through > photosynthesis millions of years ago. So clearly the Earth survived much > higher concentrations of carbon dioxide in the past and still had a great ice > age. > > If the environmentalists want to make a case for ending coal use because it > causes health problems and acid rain, then they should make that case. That > science is settled. However, if they want to make the case that carbon > dioxide causes global warming, they're going to have to prove it. > > Finally, why does Al Gore refuse all opportunities to debate? It's ecause he > can't debate on the facts. > > > > > > --- On Mon, 12/14/09, Paul Hill <[email protected]> wrote: > >> From: Paul Hill <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [OT] Re: In Bangladesh, climate change is a matter of life and >> death >> To: "ProFox Email List" <[email protected]> >> Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 6:15 PM >> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 8:47 PM, >> Michael Madigan <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > OK, but those gases haven't been declining for the >> last 11 year, yet temperatures have declined. >> >> Chlorofluorocarbons have decreased massively (rightly so) >> in the last >> decade or so, and the effect is huge. The ozone hole >> over Antarctica >> is shrinking. >> >> But man has no effect on the atmosphere of this world, >> right? >> >> > --- On Mon, 12/14/09, Nicholas Geti <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> >> From: Nicholas Geti <[email protected]> >> >> Subject: Re: [OT] Re: In Bangladesh, climate >> change is a matter of life and death >> >> To: "ProFox Email List" <[email protected]> >> >> Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 3:35 PM >> >> Who said that it was only CO2? The >> >> gases on the full list are methane, >> >> nitrous oxide, ozone, and chlorofluorocarbons. In >> addition >> >> to the effect of >> >> these gases is deforestation which is also a major >> factor >> >> in planet warming. >> >> -- >> Paul >> [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
