If they did what you just said, then I agree.  They say they didn't do that.  

Which thief do you believe?  The Government thief or the Goldman thief?



--- On Wed, 4/28/10, Virgil Bierschwale <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: Virgil Bierschwale <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: *** SPAM ***[OT] Chinese accused of vast trade in organs
> To: "ProFox Email List" <[email protected]>
> Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 8:07 PM
> ask yourself a question.
> 
> Self, my goal is to sell this mortgage bundle to client a
> so that client 
> a can make a profit because it is a good investment based
> on the rating 
> agencies.
> Self, I think I will sell it short though once it starts
> going down so 
> that I don't lose money on it.
> Self, Who cares about my client.
> Self, I have no fiduciary responsibility to them.
> 
> I personally would make them walk the plank after I clawed
> back every 
> penny of a bonus and salary that they have been paid, but
> I'm harsher 
> then most so I will bow to the common will of the majority,
> as long as 
> the jury is not made up of only wall street types
> 
> On 4/28/2010 7:01 PM, Michael Madigan wrote:
> > The Government's argument is that they misrepresented
> the bundled mortgages and Goldman says they didn't
> misrepresent them.
> >
> > The Democrats are liars and so is Goldman, so what do
> we do?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 4/28/10, Virgil Bierschwale<[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> >
> >    
> >> From: Virgil Bierschwale<[email protected]>
> >> Subject: Re: *** SPAM ***[OT] Chinese accused of
> vast trade in organs
> >> To: "ProFox Email List"<[email protected]>
> >> Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 7:50 PM
> >> I've been studying the market since
> >> 96.
> >> doesn't make me an expert, but I can guarantee you
> that
> >> warren buffet
> >> back around that timeframe mentioned that
> derivatives were
> >> going to
> >> destroy the market.
> >>
> >> he's made money on them since I guess so you don't
> hear
> >> that no more,
> >> but he was 100% right.
> >>
> >> With a stock or an option you end up with a share
> of a
> >> company, even if
> >> it is worthless.
> >>
> >> Ask the people who say the government isn't
> telling the
> >> truth to show
> >> you what you would end up with if the deal went
> bad on
> >> you.
> >>
> >> On 4/28/2010 6:46 PM, Michael Madigan wrote:
> >>      
> >>> They claim, however, that the Government isn't
> telling
> >>>        
> >> the truth.
> >>      
> >>> What a disgusting show by the Democrats
> dropping the S
> >>>        
> >> bomb over and over again.
> >>      
> >>> CBS was fined 250k for showing Janet Jackson's
> nipple,
> >>>        
> >> but nobody gets fined for saying "sh*t" over and
> over again
> >> in Congress?
> >>      
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- On Wed, 4/28/10, Virgil Bierschwale<[email protected]>
> >>>        
> >> wrote:
> >>      
> >>>
> >>>        
> >>>> From: Virgil Bierschwale<[email protected]>
> >>>> Subject: Re: *** SPAM ***[OT] Chinese
> accused of
> >>>>          
> >> vast trade in organs
> >>      
> >>>> To: "ProFox Email List"<[email protected]>
> >>>> Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 2:24 PM
> >>>> I realized that yesterday watching
> >>>> goldman sachs on cnbc.
> >>>>
> >>>> they have absolutely zero realization of
> what they
> >>>>          
> >> are
> >>      
> >>>> doing.
> >>>> no remorse, nothing
> >>>>
> >>>> for those of you not familiar with the
> stock
> >>>>          
> >> market.
> >>      
> >>>> if you buy or sell a stock, you actually
> own
> >>>>          
> >> something
> >>      
> >>>> tangible
> >>>> if you buy an option, somebody owning that
> stock
> >>>>          
> >> has to
> >>      
> >>>> agree to
> >>>> transfer that stock to you if you exercise
> your
> >>>>          
> >> option.
> >>      
> >>>> if you sell an option to somebody, you
> must own
> >>>>          
> >> that stock
> >>      
> >>>> and you agree
> >>>> to transfer it to the buyer if they
> exercise their
> >>>>          
> >> option.
> >>      
> >>>> now derivatives.
> >>>> you own NOTHING
> >>>>
> >>>> On 4/28/2010 1:00 PM, Michael Madigan
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>          
> >>>>> It seems that basic ethics and morals
> have not
> >>>>>         
>   
> >> been
> >>      
> >>>>>
> >>>>>         
>   
> >>>> taught for at least a generation, so
> anything can
> >>>>          
> >> happen
> >>      
> >>>> now.
> >>>>
> >>>>          
> >>>>> --- On Wed, 4/28/10, Virgil
> Bierschwale<[email protected]>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>         
>   
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>>         
>   
> >>>>>> From: Virgil Bierschwale<[email protected]>
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: *** SPAM ***[OT]
> Chinese
> >>>>>>         
>     
> >> accused of
> >>      
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>         
>     
> >>>> vast trade in organs
> >>>>
> >>>>          
> >>>>>> To: "ProFox Email List"<[email protected]>
> >>>>>> Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010,
> 11:25 AM
> >>>>>> That's part of why I do my website
> as
> >>>>>> I too ha?e concerns about where we
> are
> >>>>>>         
>     
> >> headed
> >>      
> >>>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry®
> Smartphone by
> >>>>>>         
>     
> >> WCW
> >>      
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: Gérard Lochon<[email protected]>
> >>>>>> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 17:11:25
> >>>>>> To: ProFox Email List<[email protected]>
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: *** SPAM ***[OT]
> Chinese
> >>>>>>         
>     
> >> accused of
> >>      
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>         
>     
> >>>> vast trade
> >>>>
> >>>>          
> >>>>>> in organs
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>         
>     
> >>>>>>> Don't know if you ever saw
> that movie
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>       
>         
> >>
> >>      
> >>>> demolition man,
> >>>>
> >>>>          
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>       
>         
> >>
> >>      
> >>>>>> but we seem to be
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>         
>     
> >>>>>>> breaking into the haves and
> the have
> >>>>>>>       
>         
> >> nots
> >>      
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>       
>         
> >>
> >>      
> >>>> similar to
> >>>>
> >>>>          
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>       
>         
> >>
> >>      
> >>>>>> that movie.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>         
>     
> >>>>>>> and then the unit mentioned
> the other
> >>>>>>>       
>         
> >> day
> >>      
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>       
>         
> >>
> >>      
> >>>> where they
> >>>>
> >>>>          
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>       
>         
> >>
> >>      
> >>>>>> could automatically
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>         
>     
> >>>>>>> inject you for medical
> purposes.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>       
>         
> >>
> >>      
> >>>>>> No, i didn't see that movie (but
> i'll try
> >>>>>>         
>     
> >> to find
> >>      
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>         
>     
> >>>> it in
> >>>>
> >>>>          
> >>>>>> free streaming :o) )
> >>>>>> But there are a lot of projects
> acting in
> >>>>>>         
>     
> >> that a
> >>      
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>         
>     
> >>>> way AFAIK
> >>>>
> >>>>          
> >>>>>> for the next
> >>>>>> future and the future next,
> >>>>>> American laboratories, French and
> European
> >>>>>>         
>     
> >> ones,
> >>      
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>         
>     
> >>>> Asians
> >>>>
> >>>>          
> >>>>>> also, and others
> >>>>>> too... are all involved in them.
> >>>>>> And other projects you never could
> have
> >>>>>>         
>     
> >> had an
> >>      
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>         
>     
> >>>> idea.
> >>>>
> >>>>          
> >>>>>> I can't tell you more about that,
> because
> >>>>>>         
>     
> >> although
> >>      
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>         
>     
> >>>> i'm not
> >>>>
> >>>>          
> >>>>>> directly
> >>>>>> concerned, my knwoledge of the
> subject
> >>>>>> makes me an indirect actor, and
> all of
> >>>>>>         
>     
> >> this kind
> >>      
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>         
>     
> >>>> of work is
> >>>>
> >>>>          
> >>>>>> under high level
> >>>>>> secrecy. You know what i mean.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Anyway, there is no stop put on me
> about
> >>>>>>         
>     
> >> asking
> >>      
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>         
>     
> >>>> underscored
> >>>>
> >>>>          
> >>>>>> and hardest
> >>>>>> questions (for the moment).
> >>>>>> And so, i act to put my willing
> /ON, when
> >>>>>>         
>     
> >> i think
> >>      
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>         
>     
> >>>> of human
> >>>>
> >>>>          
> >>>>>> superior
> >>>>>> interest.
> >>>>>> Will you do so ?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Gérard.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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