No illegal Mexicans coming over the border, you have no land border No former slave population.
Mostly whites. Three big advantages over the United States. --- On Wed, 4/28/10, geoff <[email protected]> wrote: > From: geoff <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: *** SPAM ***[OT] Chinese accused of vast trade in organs > To: "'ProFox Email List'" <[email protected]> > Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 8:41 PM > I live in Australia where we have the > world's best economy. A mixed > capitalist-socialist system has given us the worlds #2 > desirable place the > live, no recession and until recently no govt debt and a > surplus. Universal > health care, a public education system that we all complain > about but craps > on most other country's system, low unemployment and even > the weather is > better. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf > Of Virgil Bierschwale > Sent: Thursday, 29 April 2010 10:09 AM > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: Re: *** SPAM ***[OT] Chinese accused of vast trade > in organs > > I hear you. > Wasn't aware that the first depression did that because > I've never > studied it. > > I have experienced first hand what the second depression > did because I > have lived it. > One thing I can guarantee you though is that europe (not > sure where you > live at) is following our example and doing the same thing > which is bad > for europe and needs to be stopped > > http://keepamericaatwork.com/?p=5948 > > > On 4/28/2010 7:33 PM, geoff wrote: > > Life for everyone would be so much easier if you > Americans just REGULATED > > your financial markets. You gave us one world-wide > depression and nearly a > > second one. You would think by now you would be > looking afield at examples > > of rich prosperous nations that DONT destroy their > economies and try and > > model on those. And just as a clue... that involves > regulation of > financial > > markets. > > > > It is bad enough that you wreck your own economy, but > when you export the > > misery overseas it earns you far more disrespect and > disgust than your > > military adventures every do. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf > > Of Virgil Bierschwale > > Sent: Thursday, 29 April 2010 9:57 AM > > To: ProFox Email List > > Subject: Re: *** SPAM ***[OT] Chinese accused of vast > trade in organs > > > > I believe goldman is charged with fraud. > > I believe the ratings agency rated it AAA > > I believe the buyer bought it based on their > fundamental analysis which > > means they ran the numbers that the rating agency > provided. > > I believe that paulson picked the merchandise based on > what I've heard > > and that the buyer was not aware of it. > > > > Just on line 3 above, it is fraud if the product was > not rated properly, > > or goldman submitted inaccurate documentation to the > rating agency. > > Then when you add in line 4 where paulson picked it > and sold it as AAA > > and then bet on it to go down, well lets just say that > their is > > something fishy going on. > > > > Then to watch the goldman ceo have no remorse, I > realized that he would > > have no remorse selling any american company offshore > as long as it went > > in his pocket. > > > > Somehow, somewhere, we have lost our moral compass and > we've forgotten > > the terms of putting god and country first. > > I don't know who said that line, but I can guarantee > you that somehow, > > someway he saw what would happen if we would sell the > rope that the > > russians would use to hang us with to the russians. > > > > > > On 4/28/2010 7:09 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: > > > >> If they did what you just said, then I > agree. They say they didn't do > >> > > that. > > > >> Which thief do you believe? The Government > thief or the Goldman thief? > >> > >> > >> > >> --- On Wed, 4/28/10, Virgil Bierschwale<[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>> From: Virgil Bierschwale<[email protected]> > >>> Subject: Re: *** SPAM ***[OT] Chinese accused > of vast trade in organs > >>> To: "ProFox Email List"<[email protected]> > >>> Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 8:07 PM > >>> ask yourself a question. > >>> > >>> Self, my goal is to sell this mortgage bundle > to client a > >>> so that client > >>> a can make a profit because it is a good > investment based > >>> on the rating > >>> agencies. > >>> Self, I think I will sell it short though once > it starts > >>> going down so > >>> that I don't lose money on it. > >>> Self, Who cares about my client. > >>> Self, I have no fiduciary responsibility to > them. > >>> > >>> I personally would make them walk the plank > after I clawed > >>> back every > >>> penny of a bonus and salary that they have > been paid, but > >>> I'm harsher > >>> then most so I will bow to the common will of > the majority, > >>> as long as > >>> the jury is not made up of only wall street > types > >>> > >>> On 4/28/2010 7:01 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> The Government's argument is that they > misrepresented > >>>> > >>>> > >>> the bundled mortgages and Goldman says they > didn't > >>> misrepresent them. > >>> > >>> > >>>> The Democrats are liars and so is Goldman, > so what do > >>>> > >>>> > >>> we do? > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> --- On Wed, 4/28/10, Virgil > Bierschwale<[email protected]> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> From: Virgil Bierschwale<[email protected]> > >>>>> Subject: Re: *** SPAM ***[OT] Chinese > accused of > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>> vast trade in organs > >>> > >>> > >>>>> To: "ProFox Email List"<[email protected]> > >>>>> Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 7:50 > PM > >>>>> I've been studying the market since > >>>>> 96. > >>>>> doesn't make me an expert, but I can > guarantee you > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>> that > >>> > >>> > >>>>> warren buffet > >>>>> back around that timeframe mentioned > that > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>> derivatives were > >>> > >>> > >>>>> going to > >>>>> destroy the market. > >>>>> > >>>>> he's made money on them since I guess > so you don't > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>> hear > >>> > >>> > >>>>> that no more, > >>>>> but he was 100% right. > >>>>> > >>>>> With a stock or an option you end up > with a share > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>> of a > >>> > >>> > >>>>> company, even if > >>>>> it is worthless. > >>>>> > >>>>> Ask the people who say the government > isn't > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>> telling the > >>> > >>> > >>>>> truth to show > >>>>> you what you would end up with if the > deal went > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>> bad on > >>> > >>> > >>>>> you. > >>>>> > >>>>> On 4/28/2010 6:46 PM, Michael Madigan > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>> They claim, however, that the > Government isn't > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >>> telling > >>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >>>>> the truth. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>> What a disgusting show by the > Democrats > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >>> dropping the S > >>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >>>>> bomb over and over again. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>> CBS was fined 250k for showing > Janet Jackson's > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >>> nipple, > >>> > >>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >>>>> but nobody gets fined for saying > "sh*t" over and > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>> over again > >>> > >>> > >>>>> in Congress? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>> --- On Wed, 4/28/10, Virgil > Bierschwale<[email protected]> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> From: Virgil Bierschwale<[email protected]> > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: *** SPAM ***[OT] > Chinese > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > >>> accused of > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > >>>>> vast trade in organs > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>>> To: "ProFox Email List"<[email protected]> > >>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, April 28, > 2010, 2:24 PM > >>>>>>> I realized that yesterday > watching > >>>>>>> goldman sachs on cnbc. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> they have absolutely zero > realization of > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > >>> what they > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > >>>>> are > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>>> doing. > >>>>>>> no remorse, nothing > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> for those of you not familiar > with the > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > >>> stock > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > >>>>> market. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>>> if you buy or sell a stock, > you actually > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > >>> own > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > >>>>> something > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>>> tangible > >>>>>>> if you buy an option, somebody > owning that > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > >>> stock > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > >>>>> has to > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>>> agree to > >>>>>>> transfer that stock to you if > you exercise > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > >>> your > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > >>>>> option. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>>> if you sell an option to > somebody, you > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > >>> must own > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > >>>>> that stock > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>>> and you agree > >>>>>>> to transfer it to the buyer if > they > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > >>> exercise their > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > >>>>> option. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>>> now derivatives. > >>>>>>> you own NOTHING > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 4/28/2010 1:00 PM, Michael > Madigan > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> It seems that basic ethics > and morals > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >>> have not > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >>> > >>> > >>>>> been > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>> taught for at least a > generation, so > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > >>> anything can > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > >>>>> happen > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>>> now. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> --- On Wed, 4/28/10, > Virgil > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >>> Bierschwale<[email protected]> > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>> From: Virgil > Bierschwale<[email protected]> > >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: *** SPAM > ***[OT] > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> Chinese > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> > >>> > >>>>> accused of > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>> vast trade in organs > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> To: "ProFox Email > List"<[email protected]> > >>>>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, April > 28, 2010, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> 11:25 AM > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>> That's part of why I > do my website > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> as > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>> I too ha?e concerns > about where we > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> are > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> > >>> > >>>>> headed > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Sent from my > BlackBerry® > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> Smartphone by > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> > >>> > >>>>> WCW > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> -----Original > Message----- > >>>>>>>>> From: Gérard > Lochon<[email protected]> > >>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 > 17:11:25 > >>>>>>>>> To: ProFox Email > List<[email protected]> > >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: *** SPAM > ***[OT] > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> Chinese > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> > >>> > >>>>> accused of > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>> vast trade > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> in organs > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>> Don't know if you > ever saw > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>> that movie > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>> > >>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>>> demolition man, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>> > >>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> but we seem to be > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>> breaking into the > haves and > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>> the have > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>> > >>> > >>>>> nots > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>> > >>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>>> similar to > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>> > >>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> that movie. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>> and then the unit > mentioned > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>> the other > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>> > >>> > >>>>> day > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>> > >>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>>> where they > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>> > >>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> could automatically > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>> inject you for > medical > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>> purposes. > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > > > >>> > >>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> No, i didn't see that > movie (but > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> i'll try > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> > >>> > >>>>> to find > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>> it in > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> free streaming :o) ) > >>>>>>>>> But there are a lot of > projects > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> acting in > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> > >>> > >>>>> that a > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>> way AFAIK > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> for the next > >>>>>>>>> future and the future > next, > >>>>>>>>> American laboratories, > French and > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> European > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> > >>> > >>>>> ones, > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>> Asians > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> also, and others > >>>>>>>>> too... are all > involved in them. > >>>>>>>>> And other projects you > never could > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> have > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> > >>> > >>>>> had an > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>> idea. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> I can't tell you more > about that, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> because > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> > >>> > >>>>> although > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>> i'm not > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> directly > >>>>>>>>> concerned, my > knwoledge of the > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> subject > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>> makes me an indirect > actor, and > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> all of > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> > >>> > >>>>> this kind > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>> of work is > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> under high level > >>>>>>>>> secrecy. You know what > i mean. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Anyway, there is no > stop put on me > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> about > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> > >>> > >>>>> asking > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>> underscored > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> and hardest > >>>>>>>>> questions (for the > moment). > >>>>>>>>> And so, i act to put > my willing > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> /ON, when > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> > >>> > >>>>> i think > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>> of human > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> superior > >>>>>>>>> interest. > >>>>>>>>> Will you do so ? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Gérard. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > > [excessive quoting removed by server] > > _______________________________________________ > Post Messages to: [email protected] > Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox > OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech > Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox > This message: > http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] > ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are > the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or > medical advice. 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