Ed Leafe wrote: > On May 6, 2010, at 12:02 AM, Michael Oke, II wrote: > >> AB 1070 does not now, nor did it ever, allow the police to stop a person >> just because they "looked Mexican". It does permit them to assess the >> immigration status of someone that they come lawfully into contact with. > > Of course, exactly what constitutes "lawfully coming into contact with" > is the issue. That is, as it always has been, completely at the officer's > discretion. While most officers are good and decent, only the willfully > ignorant would not see this as an invitation to the few who think they know > what's best. You know, those who claim to have a paranormal sensory ability > to distinguish criminals from the law-abiding, and take it upon themselves to > act on that.
And those officers would be easily identified when there is no valid supporting case for their questioning/detaining individuals. One can only hope that the department that they work for would then take the correct steps to discipline these individuals up to, and including, termination. But these types of officers are a problem, this law notwithstanding. > >> Keep in mind that, under Federal law, a non-citizen legally in the >> U.S. must carry their paperwork with them at all time, whether that be a >> green card, a visa or other as permitted by law. > > > True, so I guess that if someone is stopped by an officer and cannot > show such paperwork, they must be citizens, since you've just stated that all > non-citizens would have papers with them. Nope, I didn't saw that nor did I infer it. I simply stated that, by Federal law, they are supposed to be in possession of these documents at all times. I personally know, and have known, plenty of resident aliens that don't carry their "green" card with them at all times and they know that they are supposed to. > > I don't always carry ID. I shouldn't have to always carry ID. No one > should. But under this law, if an officer decides to lawfully come into > contact with me at one of those times, I can be arrested. If that's the world > you want to live in, so be it, but that's not America. Detained actually. While you don't always have ID you do have access to it do you not? It's not America to follow the laws of the land? > > > -- Ed Leafe > ::michael _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
