Please explain, if you can, how health care is a basic right? And there is not nearly the scorn for the US health care system as you imagine or hope that there is.
::michael On Nov 10, 2010 9:11 PM, "geoff" <[email protected]> wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Nicholas Geti > Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2010 3:23 PM > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: Re: [OT] Serious legal challenges to Health Bill > > Who cares about what the rest of the world thinks. They know nothing about > the United States on any topic just as I know nothing about Australia except > > what I read in a few paragraphs on some Internet news article a few times a > year. Nor do I care. > > YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE REST OF THE WORLD AND THAT IS A FAIRLY TYPICAL > AMERICAN PERSPECTIVE. > > There are a few who rant and rave about conditions in the U.S. but don't > live here and have no clue. I say they are green with envy and have some > kind of axe to grind about their own condition. I am happy with our health > system. I have top-notch doctors who take care of me just fine, thank you. > > AS IF TO PROVE MY POINT. ** YOU ** have good doctors. I know that indulgent > self-interest is a human condition, but do you have to refine it so well? > > It always amazes me how people can blow off how bad it is here and yet there > > are 10 million illegals here who are taken care of for free and more keep > coming every day. I have mentioned in the past how generous the U.S. has > been over the years to all the world but you just ignore it and pick out > some pathetic comments by others who are far from experts. > > DOES IT HAVE TO BE SPELLED OUT TO YOU? The illegals aren't coming from > Canada but from mexico. It would be difficult to find a more violent and > more disgusting place to live than there. We have a lot of illegals trying > to get here too. Its not like you are the only ones with that problem. And > we acknowledge your country's generosity many times, but it wears a bit thin > after a while when you nearly take the world into a depression because of > your own greed and staggering fiscal incompentence. > > We have not failed. Our stock market is booming and soon will translate into > > jobs. I am taking down $40,000 per month in the stock market so I cannot > complain. We have discussed at length what caused our depression so I will > not repeat it here. > > WELL IT WOUDL SEEM THAT you are the only commentator talking about your > booming economy. Your stock market is merely recovering lost ground. And > again as if to prove the point **YOU** are doing well so bugger the rest. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "geoff" <[email protected]> > To: "'ProFox Email List'" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 9:29 PM > Subject: RE: [OT] Serious legal challenges to Health Bill > > >> Well it actually IS on the subject since the subject was health care. You >> would be amazed (and probably surprised) at the level of scorn and mocking >> that is directed at the American health system from virtually anywhere in >> the first world. Health care is a basic right given to all, well at least >> in >> MOST first-world countries it is. And many posters have in previous >> threads >> made significant comment on those who 'dont deserve' health care. You have >> built an economy based on some fine principles, but the flip side of that >> has brought you near depression and a level of debt and financial disaster >> that is unparalleled. Good lessons there to be learned and apparently very >> few of them have been. It seems a uniquely American attitude to strive for >> the best - for me and mine. It works - and works well - until you fail. >> And >> then you end up with no welfare, no food, no health care and no hope. And >> all of this is brought to you by the nation with more billionaires than >> the >> rest of the planet combined. Your health debate is actually about FAR MORE >> than health. It is a litmus test on your national character. It describes >> who you are and what your true national priorities are. And apparently the >> poor aren't one of them. By supporting your poor - undeserving tho they >> may >> be - in real and genuine ways you may discover a hidden resource in your >> nation: compassion. >> >> Here's hoping. >> >> Geoff Flight >> General Manager >> >> Sustainable Resources Industry Training Pty Ltd >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of Nicholas Geti >> Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2010 12:47 PM >> To: ProFox Email List >> Subject: Re: [OT] Serious legal challenges to Health Bill >> >> Well, you certainly have made a leap here and changed the subject. There >> is >> nothing about "deserving it" in any of the debate. It is about the waste >> involved and the 1000s of pages of rules that no one understands. Also >> about >> >> illegals coming in the U.S. to get free care and busting the budgets of >> many >> >> cities. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "geoff" <[email protected]> >> To: "'ProFox Email List'" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:15 PM >> Subject: RE: [OT] Serious legal challenges to Health Bill >> >> >>> It is quite amusing for us out here watching the so-called 'land of the >>> free' and 'bastion of democracy' show that its 'light on the hill' is >>> slowly >>> going out. The essential argument against the health reforms is that >>> people >>> who 'don't deserve it' will get it. Don't deserve health care? There is a >>> reason your country is going down the toilet. It has been said that the >>> true >>> test of the character of a nation is how it treats its poor and most >>> vulnerable. The USA is the richest nation on the planet yet has the >>> highest >>> rate of poverty outside the 3rd world. The test of character is one that >>> you >>> have failed. >>> >>> And just for the record... we have universal health care and have mostly >>> budget surpluses and little to no govt debt. It CAN be done - but only by >>> people with the drive and compassion to see it done. >>> >>> Geoff Flight >>> General Manager >>> >>> Sustainable Resources Industry Training Pty Ltd >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf >>> Of Nicholas Geti >>> Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2010 4:08 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: [OT] Serious legal challenges to Health Bill >>> >>> A taxpayer voting for a Democrat is like a chicken voting for Col. >>> Sanders. >>> Democrats are trying to say that Supreme Court precedence permits forcing >>> taxpayers to buy something they don't want. >>> >>> >> > http://visiontoamerica.org/story/legal-challenge-could-derail-health-care-la >>> w.html >>> >>> >>> >>> --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- >>> multipart/alternative >>> text/plain (text body -- kept) >>> text/html >>> --- >>> [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. 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