We have too many deadbeats in America who pay ZERO taxes. Is there 20% of Australians that pay ZERO taxes?
--- On Thu, 11/11/10, geoff <[email protected]> wrote: > From: geoff <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: RE: [OT] Serious legal challenges to Health Bill > To: "'ProFox Email List'" <[email protected]> > Date: Thursday, November 11, 2010, 1:44 AM > Read the whole article using both > eyes and a smidgen of mathematical > ability. I was going to suggest you draw on your depths of > integrity but I > figured that well was already quite dry. The article refers > to the GULF > between haves and have nots. That is actually what Obamas > plan is aiming to > do - to do that utterly un-American idea of helping the > poor. Can you even > address that notion: helping the poor? > > And i see you have declined the invitation to > intellectually debate why > Australia can have affordable, effective and PAID FOR > universal health care > and you cant. Not that I expected you to. > > Geoff Flight > General Manager > > Sustainable Resources Industry Training Pty Ltd > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf > Of Michael Madigan > Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2010 5:05 PM > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: RE: RE: [OT] Serious legal challenges to Health > Bill > > Here dickhead > > http://www.gallup.com/poll/123149/cost-is-foremost-healthcare-issue-for-amer > icans.aspx > > --- On Thu, 11/11/10, geoff <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > From: geoff <[email protected]> > > Subject: RE: RE: [OT] Serious legal challenges to > Health Bill > > To: "'ProFox Email List'" <[email protected]> > > Date: Thursday, November 11, 2010, 1:24 AM > > No. You SHOW it to me. Show how 85% > > of Americans LOVE your health system. > > > > Geoff Flight > > General Manager > > > > Sustainable Resources Industry Training Pty Ltd > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] > > On Behalf > > Of Michael Madigan > > Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2010 4:51 PM > > To: ProFox Email List > > Subject: RE: RE: [OT] Serious legal challenges to > Health > > Bill > > > > Look it up, asshat > > > > --- On Thu, 11/11/10, geoff <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > From: geoff <[email protected]> > > > Subject: RE: RE: [OT] Serious legal challenges > to > > Health Bill > > > To: "'ProFox Email List'" <[email protected]> > > > Date: Thursday, November 11, 2010, 12:36 AM > > > What, do you just make up statistics > > > yourself or is there a BSstatistics.com > > > you go to? The lack of even basic Christian care > you > > exude > > > is a disgrace. > > > > > > Geoff Flight > > > General Manager > > > > > > Sustainable Resources Industry Training Pty Ltd > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] > > > [mailto:[email protected]] > > > On Behalf > > > Of Michael Madigan > > > Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2010 4:04 PM > > > To: ProFox Email List > > > Subject: RE: RE: [OT] Serious legal challenges > to > > Health > > > Bill > > > > > > To dismantle a system that 85& of the > country > > loves to > > > accommodate the other > > > 15% is ridiculous. > > > > > > --- On Thu, 11/11/10, geoff <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > From: geoff <[email protected]> > > > > Subject: RE: RE: [OT] Serious legal > challenges > > to > > > Health Bill > > > > To: "'ProFox Email List'" <[email protected]> > > > > Date: Thursday, November 11, 2010, 12:25 AM > > > > A) I live outside the USA and listen > > > > to people and their comments including > > > > politicians > > > > B) The USA health system is routinely held > up as > > a > > > model of > > > > what NOT to do. > > > > C) the fact you don't think health care is > a > > basic > > > right > > > > says more than > > > > anything else about how far your country > has > > slipped. > > > > > > > > Geoff Flight > > > > General Manager > > > > > > > > Sustainable Resources Industry Training Pty > Ltd > > > > 58 Norrie Ave > > > > Clovelly Park 5042 > > > > P: +61 8 8277 6380 M: 0414 965 226 F: +61 8 > 8177 > > > 1290 > > > > W: www.srit.com.au E: > > > > [email protected] > > > > TAKE THE SURVEY! http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/976V5JT > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > On Behalf > > > > Of Michael Oke, II > > > > Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2010 3:49 PM > > > > To: ProFox Email List > > > > Subject: Re: RE: [OT] Serious legal > challenges > > to > > > Health > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > Please explain, if you can, how health care > is a > > > basic > > > > right? > > > > > > > > And there is not nearly the scorn for the > US > > health > > > care > > > > system as you > > > > imagine or hope that there is. > > > > > > > > ::michael > > > > On Nov 10, 2010 9:11 PM, "geoff" <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > On Behalf > > > > > Of Nicholas Geti > > > > > Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2010 3:23 > PM > > > > > To: ProFox Email List > > > > > Subject: Re: [OT] Serious legal > challenges > > to > > > Health > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > Who cares about what the rest of the > world > > > thinks. > > > > They know nothing about > > > > > > > > > the United States on any topic just as > I > > know > > > nothing > > > > about Australia > > > > except > > > > > > > > > > what I read in a few paragraphs on > some > > Internet > > > news > > > > article a few times > > > > a > > > > > year. Nor do I care. > > > > > > > > > > YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE REST OF THE > WORLD > > AND > > > THAT > > > > IS A FAIRLY TYPICAL > > > > > AMERICAN PERSPECTIVE. > > > > > > > > > > There are a few who rant and rave > about > > > conditions in > > > > the U.S. but don't > > > > > live here and have no clue. I say they > are > > green > > > with > > > > envy and have some > > > > > kind of axe to grind about their own > > condition. I > > > am > > > > happy with our health > > > > > > > > > system. I have top-notch doctors who > take > > care of > > > me > > > > just fine, thank you. > > > > > > > > > > AS IF TO PROVE MY POINT. ** YOU ** > have > > good > > > doctors. > > > > I know that > > > > indulgent > > > > > self-interest is a human condition, but > do > > you > > > have to > > > > refine it so well? > > > > > > > > > > It always amazes me how people can blow > off > > how > > > bad it > > > > is here and yet > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > are 10 million illegals here who are > taken > > care > > > of for > > > > free and more keep > > > > > coming every day. I have mentioned in > the > > past > > > how > > > > generous the U.S. has > > > > > been over the years to all the world > but > > you > > > just > > > > ignore it and pick out > > > > > some pathetic comments by others who > are > > far > > > from > > > > experts. > > > > > > > > > > DOES IT HAVE TO BE SPELLED OUT TO YOU? > The > > > illegals > > > > aren't coming from > > > > > Canada but from mexico. It would be > > difficult to > > > find > > > > a more violent and > > > > > more disgusting place to live than > there. We > > have > > > a > > > > lot of illegals trying > > > > > to get here too. Its not like you are > the > > only > > > ones > > > > with that problem. And > > > > > we acknowledge your country's > generosity > > many > > > times, > > > > but it wears a bit > > > > thin > > > > > after a while when you nearly take the > world > > into > > > a > > > > depression because of > > > > > your own greed and staggering fiscal > > > incompentence. > > > > > > > > > > We have not failed. Our stock market > is > > booming > > > and > > > > soon will translate > > > > into > > > > > > > > > > jobs. I am taking down $40,000 per > month in > > the > > > stock > > > > market so I cannot > > > > > complain. We have discussed at length > what > > caused > > > our > > > > depression so I will > > > > > > > > > not repeat it here. > > > > > > > > > > WELL IT WOUDL SEEM THAT you are the > only > > > commentator > > > > talking about your > > > > > booming economy. Your stock market is > > merely > > > > recovering lost ground. And > > > > > again as if to prove the point **YOU** > are > > doing > > > well > > > > so bugger the rest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "geoff" <[email protected]> > > > > > To: "'ProFox Email List'" <[email protected]> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 9:29 > PM > > > > > Subject: RE: [OT] Serious legal > challenges > > to > > > Health > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Well it actually IS on the subject > since > > the > > > > subject was health care. You > > > > >> would be amazed (and probably > surprised) > > at > > > the > > > > level of scorn and > > > > mocking > > > > >> that is directed at the American > health > > > system > > > > from virtually anywhere in > > > > >> the first world. Health care is a > basic > > > right > > > > given to all, well at least > > > > > > > > >> in > > > > >> MOST first-world countries it is. > And > > many > > > posters > > > > have in previous > > > > >> threads > > > > >> made significant comment on those > who > > 'dont > > > > deserve' health care. You > > > > have > > > > >> built an economy based on some > fine > > > principles, > > > > but the flip side of that > > > > >> has brought you near depression and > a > > level > > > of > > > > debt and financial > > > > disaster > > > > >> that is unparalleled. Good lessons > there > > to > > > be > > > > learned and apparently > > > > very > > > > >> few of them have been. It seems a > > uniquely > > > > American attitude to strive > > > > for > > > > >> the best - for me and mine. It > works - > > and > > > works > > > > well - until you fail. > > > > >> And > > > > >> then you end up with no welfare, > no > > food, no > > > > health care and no hope. And > > > > >> all of this is brought to you by > the > > nation > > > with > > > > more billionaires than > > > > >> the > > > > >> rest of the planet combined. Your > > health > > > debate is > > > > actually about FAR > > > > MORE > > > > >> than health. It is a litmus test > on > > your > > > national > > > > character. It describes > > > > >> who you are and what your true > national > > > priorities > > > > are. And apparently > > > > the > > > > >> poor aren't one of them. By > supporting > > your > > > poor - > > > > undeserving tho they > > > > >> may > > > > >> be - in real and genuine ways you > may > > > discover a > > > > hidden resource in your > > > > >> nation: compassion. > > > > >> > > > > >> Here's hoping. > > > > >> > > > > >> Geoff Flight > > > > >> General Manager > > > > >> > > > > >> Sustainable Resources Industry > Training > > Pty > > > Ltd > > > > >> > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > > >> From: [email protected] > > > > [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > On > > > > Behalf > > > > >> Of Nicholas Geti > > > > >> Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2010 > 12:47 > > PM > > > > >> To: ProFox Email List > > > > >> Subject: Re: [OT] Serious legal > > challenges > > > to > > > > Health Bill > > > > >> > > > > >> Well, you certainly have made a > leap > > here > > > and > > > > changed the subject. There > > > > >> is > > > > >> nothing about "deserving it" in any > of > > the > > > debate. > > > > It is about the waste > > > > >> involved and the 1000s of pages of > rules > > that > > > no > > > > one understands. Also > > > > >> about > > > > >> > > > > >> illegals coming in the U.S. to get > free > > care > > > and > > > > busting the budgets of > > > > >> many > > > > >> > > > > >> cities. > > > > >> > > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > > >> From: "geoff" <[email protected]> > > > > >> To: "'ProFox Email List'" <[email protected]> > > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 > 5:15 > > PM > > > > >> Subject: RE: [OT] Serious legal > > challenges > > > to > > > > Health Bill > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>> It is quite amusing for us out > here > > > watching > > > > the so-called 'land of the > > > > >>> free' and 'bastion of > democracy' > > show > > > that its > > > > 'light on the hill' is > > > > >>> slowly > > > > >>> going out. The essential > argument > > against > > > the > > > > health reforms is that > > > > >>> people > > > > >>> who 'don't deserve it' will get > it. > > > Don't > > > > deserve health care? There is > > > > a > > > > >>> reason your country is going > down > > the > > > toilet. > > > > It has been said that the > > > > >>> true > > > > >>> test of the character of a > nation is > > how > > > it > > > > treats its poor and most > > > > >>> vulnerable. The USA is the > richest > > nation > > > on > > > > the planet yet has the > > > > >>> highest > > > > >>> rate of poverty outside the > 3rd > > world. > > > The > > > > test of character is one that > > > > >>> you > > > > >>> have failed. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> And just for the record... we > have > > > universal > > > > health care and have mostly > > > > >>> budget surpluses and little to > no > > govt > > > debt. > > > > It CAN be done - but only > > > > by > > > > >>> people with the drive and > compassion > > to > > > see it > > > > done. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Geoff Flight > > > > >>> General Manager > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Sustainable Resources Industry > > Training > > > Pty > > > > Ltd > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > > > >>> From: [email protected] > > > > [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > On > > > > >>> Behalf > > > > >>> Of Nicholas Geti > > > > >>> Sent: Thursday, 11 November > 2010 > > 4:08 AM > > > > >>> To: [email protected] > > > > >>> Subject: [OT] Serious legal > > challenges > > > to > > > > Health Bill > > > > >>> > > > > >>> A taxpayer voting for a > Democrat is > > like > > > a > > > > chicken voting for Col. > > > > >>> Sanders. > > > > >>> Democrats are trying to say > that > > Supreme > > > Court > > > > precedence permits > > > > forcing > > > > >>> taxpayers to buy something > they > > don't > > > want. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://visiontoamerica.org/story/legal-challenge-could-derail-health-care-la > > > > >>> w.html > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> --- StripMime Report -- > processed > > MIME > > > parts > > > > --- > > > > >>> multipart/altern[excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. 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