It has probably not yet occurred to you, but this amazing thing called the internet allows people to know a great deal about other countries without visiting. It also allows us to read the opinions of people WHO do live there. It is a peculiarly American attribute to be woefully uninformed about the rest of the world, but the rest of us are not so. Are you even aware that Australia ALSO has a foreign aid program as well. We also send a lot of money to other countries. Only this week we sent $500M for schools in Indonesia. East Timor basically runs on our largesse and so do a lot of the south pacific islands.
Health care is ALWAYS expensive and difficult to do well. My issue with most of the attitudes on here is that you oppose even trying. Large numbers of your population have little to no access to health care and people don't seem to care. And there are even people on here arguing that access to health care isn't even a RIGHT. Is there any wonder why the rest of the world is so disappointed with the USA? Gitmo told us about the disdain you have for foreigners and how they don't even deserve basic human rights and due process. This health care argument shows that you don't even care for your own people unless they are rich. Geoff Flight General Manager Sustainable Resources Industry Training Pty Ltd -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nicholas Geti Sent: Friday, 12 November 2010 12:19 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Serious legal challenges to Health Bill It IS the lack of money. The crooks skim off lots of it before it gets to the public. Also by the time the lawyers take their cut through litigation which drives up insurance bills and the crooks pad their bills to the government there is not much left. I just saw a statistic this week that the four richest counties in the U.S. border Washington, D.C. These are where government bureaucrats live and commute to work. The fastest growing work force and the highest paid is in government. When I was growing up government workers were ridiculed because of the low pay and useless activity. It has now changed to the highest paid (even though useless activity remains rampant) worker. I know nothing about the health care business in Australia except for what you say. I know anecdotally that health care in Canada and U.K. is very bad and bankrupt. Boston, Massachusetts has implemented a Canadian style health plan that takes on all comers much like you say for Australia. It is now bankrupt and still bleeding. Illegals alone account for $300M in arrears. How do you know how much U.S. cares about the health of our people? It is amazing to me that you can spout off about what we feel without actually living here and getting first hand knowledge. Maybe if the U.S. would stop sending so much money out to help poor countries we could do more here. Look up on the Internet about the amounts we send to Haiti, Indonesia and Africa. ----- Original Message ----- From: "geoff" <[email protected]> To: "'ProFox Email List'" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 12:15 AM Subject: RE: [OT] Serious legal challenges to Health Bill Thats the best you can do??? Ever heard of SCALING?? And if anything, the fact that we are a country physically the same size as USA with 1/15th the population density means that supplying infrastructure like health care will ALWAYS be more expensive that a densely populated country like yours. Yet we manage to not only supply health care at a fraction of the cost, we can supply it to everyone. It isn't a lack of money holding you back. It is a lack of will or even worse a lack of CARE. Geoff Flight General Manager [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.

