It has probably not yet occurred to you, but this amazing thing called the
internet allows people to know a great deal about other countries without
visiting. It also allows us to read the opinions of people WHO do live
there. It is a peculiarly American attribute to be woefully uninformed about
the rest of the world, but the rest of us are not so. Are you even aware
that Australia ALSO has a foreign aid program as well. We also send a lot of
money to other countries. Only this week we sent $500M for schools in
Indonesia. East Timor basically runs on our largesse and so do a lot of the
south pacific islands. 

Health care is ALWAYS expensive and difficult to do well. My issue with most
of the attitudes on here is that you oppose even trying. Large numbers of
your population have little to no access to health care and people don't
seem to care. And there are even people on here arguing that access to
health care isn't even a RIGHT. Is there any wonder why the rest of the
world is so disappointed with the USA? Gitmo told us about the disdain you
have for foreigners and how they don't even deserve basic human rights and
due process. This health care argument shows that you don't even care for
your own people unless they are rich.

Geoff Flight
General Manager

Sustainable Resources Industry Training Pty Ltd

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Nicholas Geti
Sent: Friday, 12 November 2010 12:19 AM
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: Re: [OT] Serious legal challenges to Health Bill

It IS the lack of money. The crooks skim off lots of it before it gets to 
the public. Also by the time the lawyers take their cut through litigation 
which drives up insurance bills and the crooks pad their bills to the 
government there is not much left. I just saw a statistic this week that the

four richest counties in the U.S. border Washington, D.C. These are where 
government bureaucrats live and commute to work. The fastest growing work 
force and the highest paid is in government.

When I was growing up government workers were ridiculed because of the low 
pay and useless activity. It has now changed to the highest paid (even 
though useless activity remains rampant) worker.

I know nothing about the health care business in Australia except for what 
you say. I know anecdotally that health care in Canada and U.K. is very bad 
and bankrupt. Boston, Massachusetts has implemented a Canadian style health 
plan that takes on all comers much like you say for Australia. It is now 
bankrupt and still bleeding. Illegals alone account for $300M in arrears.

How do you know how much U.S. cares about the health of our people? It is 
amazing to me that you can spout off about what we feel without actually 
living here and getting first hand knowledge. Maybe if the U.S. would stop 
sending so much money out to help poor countries we could do more here. Look

up on the Internet about the amounts we send to Haiti, Indonesia and Africa.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "geoff" <[email protected]>
To: "'ProFox Email List'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 12:15 AM
Subject: RE: [OT] Serious legal challenges to Health Bill


Thats the best you can do??? Ever heard of SCALING?? And if anything, the
fact that we are a country physically the same size as USA with 1/15th the
population density means that supplying infrastructure like health care will
ALWAYS be more expensive that a densely populated country like yours. Yet we
manage to not only supply health care at a fraction of the cost, we can
supply it to everyone. It isn't a lack of money holding you back. It is a
lack of will or even worse a lack of CARE.

Geoff Flight
General Manager



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