Part of the costs of health care are the state-supported monopolies. In NJ i think there are only 10 or so companies that are allowed to sell health insurance. In some states that number can be as low as two. Guess what competition you get? None.
--- On Thu, 11/11/10, Nicholas Geti <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Nicholas Geti <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [OT] Serious legal challenges to Health Bill > To: "ProFox Email List" <[email protected]> > Date: Thursday, November 11, 2010, 5:38 PM > It is also amazing how foreigners > always try to tell us how to run things > and tell us how evil we are. I don't tell you how to run > your country so why > tell me how to run mine. > > Besides, Australia is not the brightest light in the > universe. Consider what > you people did to the Aborigines by taking away their > children and trying to > raise them as white. Consider also what you did with boat > people attempting > to land on your shore and escape from the oppression in the > countries north > of Australia. > > I bet Aborigines are heavily discriminated against even > today. > > How presumptuous of you to think either I or anyone else > doesn't care for > our people. We have the highest expenditure on health care > of any country in > the world. I would like to bring that rate down to the > average. As I said > before there is too much waste and fraud so why am I so > evil when I want to > eliminate it? You generalize to the point of absurdity. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "geoff" <[email protected]> > To: "'ProFox Email List'" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 2:47 PM > Subject: RE: [OT] Serious legal challenges to Health Bill > > > > It has probably not yet occurred to you, but this > amazing thing called the > > internet allows people to know a great deal about > other countries without > > visiting. It also allows us to read the opinions of > people WHO do live > > there. It is a peculiarly American attribute to be > woefully uninformed > > about > > the rest of the world, but the rest of us are not so. > Are you even aware > > that Australia ALSO has a foreign aid program as well. > We also send a lot > > of > > money to other countries. Only this week we sent $500M > for schools in > > Indonesia. East Timor basically runs on our largesse > and so do a lot of > > the > > south pacific islands. > > > > Health care is ALWAYS expensive and difficult to do > well. My issue with > > most > > of the attitudes on here is that you oppose even > trying. Large numbers of > > your population have little to no access to health > care and people don't > > seem to care. And there are even people on here > arguing that access to > > health care isn't even a RIGHT. Is there any wonder > why the rest of the > > world is so disappointed with the USA? Gitmo told us > about the disdain you > > have for foreigners and how they don't even deserve > basic human rights and > > due process. This health care argument shows that you > don't even care for > > your own people unless they are rich. > > > > Geoff Flight > > General Manager > > > > Sustainable Resources Industry Training Pty Ltd > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf > > Of Nicholas Geti > > Sent: Friday, 12 November 2010 12:19 AM > > To: ProFox Email List > > Subject: Re: [OT] Serious legal challenges to Health > Bill > > > > It IS the lack of money. The crooks skim off lots of > it before it gets to > > the public. Also by the time the lawyers take their > cut through litigation > > which drives up insurance bills and the crooks pad > their bills to the > > government there is not much left. I just saw a > statistic this week that > > the > > > > four richest counties in the U.S. border Washington, > D.C. These are where > > government bureaucrats live and commute to work. The > fastest growing work > > force and the highest paid is in government. > > > > When I was growing up government workers were > ridiculed because of the low > > pay and useless activity. It has now changed to the > highest paid (even > > though useless activity remains rampant) worker. > > > > I know nothing about the health care business in > Australia except for what > > you say. I know anecdotally that health care in Canada > and U.K. is very > > bad > > and bankrupt. Boston, Massachusetts has implemented a > Canadian style > > health > > plan that takes on all comers much like you say for > Australia. It is now > > bankrupt and still bleeding. Illegals alone account > for $300M in arrears. > > > > How do you know how much U.S. cares about the health > of our people? It is > > amazing to me that you can spout off about what we > feel without actually > > living here and getting first hand knowledge. Maybe if > the U.S. would stop > > sending so much money out to help poor countries we > could do more here. > > Look > > > > up on the Internet about the amounts we send to Haiti, > Indonesia and > > Africa. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "geoff" <[email protected]> > > To: "'ProFox Email List'" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 12:15 AM > > Subject: RE: [OT] Serious legal challenges to Health > Bill > > > > > > Thats the best you can do??? Ever heard of SCALING?? > And if anything, the > > fact that we are a country physically the same size as > USA with 1/15th the > > population density means that supplying infrastructure > like health care > > will > > ALWAYS be more expensive that a densely populated > country like yours. Yet > > we > > manage to not only supply health care at a fraction of > the cost, we can > > supply it to everyone. It isn't a lack of money > holding you back. It is a > > lack of will or even worse a lack of CARE. > > > > Geoff Flight > > General Manager > > > > > > [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
