I have thousands and thousands of debtors in my client's collection agency of 
people whose social security number is invalid.  I also have thousands of 
debtors who owe a co-pay of $20-%50 dollars who refuse to pay.  We'll even 
offer them $5.00 a month for them to pay it off and they refuse.

--- On Thu, 11/11/10, Nicholas Geti <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: Nicholas Geti <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: RE: [OT] Serious legal challenges to Health Bill
> To: "ProFox Email List" <[email protected]>
> Date: Thursday, November 11, 2010, 5:44 PM
> I can tell you that is what happens
> at the Danbury Hospital. It depends for 
> its healthy finances on donations from rich people and many
> volunteers who 
> work for nothing. On top of that they charge $5.00 per
> aspirin for people 
> who can pay.
> 
> Hospitals are not even allowed to ask an emergency patient
> his nationality, 
> citizenship or anything else.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Michael Madigan" <[email protected]>
> To: "ProFox Email List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 3:39 PM
> Subject: RE: RE: [OT] Serious legal challenges to Health
> Bill
> 
> 
> Another reason why you shouldn't talk about a country you
> know nothing 
> about.
> 
> In the United States it is illegal for a hospital to refuse
> to provide 
> emergency care.
> 
> If I have no assets there is nothing on earth they can do
> to compel you to 
> pay.
> 
> They can put a mark on my credit report, they can sue me,
> they can put a 
> lien against property, they can attach bank accounts, but
> if I have no 
> assets or keep all my assets in cash, there is nothing they
> can do.
> 
> The doctors and hospital eventually write it off as a
> business loss.
> 
> 
> --- On Thu, 11/11/10, geoff <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: geoff <[email protected]>
> > Subject: RE: RE: [OT] Serious legal challenges to
> Health Bill
> > To: "'ProFox Email List'" <[email protected]>
> > Date: Thursday, November 11, 2010, 3:17 PM
> > Yeah im sure you can get away with
> > not paying your bills...
> >
> > Geoff Flight
> > General Manager
> >
> > Sustainable Resources Industry Training Pty Ltd
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]]
> > On Behalf
> > Of Michael Madigan
> > Sent: Friday, 12 November 2010 6:44 AM
> > To: ProFox Email List
> > Subject: RE: RE: [OT] Serious legal challenges to
> Health
> > Bill
> >
> > Everybody has access. If you fall and break your leg,
> > the ambulance comes,
> > they set your leg, and they release
> > you. Then they send you the bill. If
> > you can't pay, you can't pay. There's no such thing
> > as debtors prison in
> > the United States.
> >
> > --- On Thu, 11/11/10, geoff <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > From: geoff <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: RE: RE: [OT] Serious legal challenges
> to
> > Health Bill
> > > To: "'ProFox Email List'" <[email protected]>
> > > Date: Thursday, November 11, 2010, 2:49 PM
> > > How many of them are poor? None. The
> > > argument isn't about whether health
> > > care exists or not and it seems increasingly hard
> to
> > ram
> > > this thru your
> > > thick skull. It is about equality of ACCESS to
> it.
> > America
> > > is a place where
> > > if you have the money you can get anything but if
> you
> > don't
> > > have it you cant
> > > even get a basic right to health care.
> > >
> > > Geoff Flight
> > > General Manager
> > >
> > > Sustainable Resources Industry Training Pty Ltd
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected]
> > > [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > On Behalf
> > > Of Nicholas Geti
> > > Sent: Friday, 12 November 2010 12:46 AM
> > > To: ProFox Email List
> > > Subject: Re: RE: [OT] Serious legal challenges
> to
> > Health
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > I have several Canadian friends who say many of
> their
> > > friends do go to the
> > > U.S. for better health care. It may cost them
> more but
> > 6
> > > months to one year
> > > waiting lists for surgery are not acceptable. In
> some
> > cases
> > > the wait can be
> > > two or three years.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "geoff" <[email protected]>
> > > To: "'ProFox Email List'" <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 12:34 AM
> > > Subject: RE: RE: [OT] Serious legal challenges
> to
> > Health
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> > > > You keep telling yourself that. Im sure you
> > believe it
> > > because no one else
> > > > does especially the poor.
> > > >
> > > > Geoff Flight
> > > > General Manager
> > > >
> > > > Sustainable Resources Industry Training Pty
> Ltd
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [email protected]
> > > [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > On Behalf
> > > > Of Michael Madigan
> > > > Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2010 4:02 PM
> > > > To: ProFox Email List
> > > > Subject: Re: RE: [OT] Serious legal
> challenges
> > to
> > > Health Bill
> > > >
> > > > People are flooding over from Canada to get
> basic
> > care
> > > because they LOVE
> > > > the
> > > > Canadian Health Care system. LO[excessive
> > quoting removed by server]
> >
[excessive quoting removed by server]

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