Can the drive that made the floppies read them?  If so, this is a common
problem.  Floppies created on one drive are not readable on another.  This
usually indicates a head alignment problem. 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Jeff Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 19:56
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: How old is your oldest, viable DVD?

I have a customer that lives 60 mile away that has a dos machine.  No
internet, no network, no nothing except for floppy.  I bought some new
floppies at Staples and went down to back up his system.  Unreadable on my
end!

It is important to know that your back up is working.


Jeff

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Jeff Johnson
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(623) 582-0323

www.san-dc.com


On 02/08/2011 05:54 PM, Anthony J. Gundrum wrote:
> Floppies, yeah.  I have a couple hundred  of the 5.25" and 3.5" 
> varieties sitting in a closet.  I've been tempted at times to see if 
> they work.  As for discs I have many CDs that go back as far as 1985.  
> DVDs are another story.  I never started using them until about 2002 
> and it was only movies at that point.
>
> The only time I've had any kind of disc failure is when it was a bad 
> burn (usually on my part) or there was physical damage.  Outside of 
> that, I've made many backups to discs which have collected into piles.
>
> The guts of an external hard drive are no different than an internal 
> hard drive.  To answer your question, the platters of a hard drive 
> have a long life expectancy.  But the caveat is a hard drive is more
likely to have
> mechanical failure before the data on the platters deteriorate.   I
wouldn't
> recommend keeping any hard drive in service for more than a few years 
> if it's used for backing up critical data.  Even then, having periodic 
> DVD or Blu-Ray backups can prove to be a life saver.  As Blu-Ray 
> becomes cheaper it will become a more viable backup solution.
>
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeff Johnson
> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 18:58
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: How old is your oldest, viable DVD?
>
> Thanks for the thread, Lew.  Remember floppies?  I have code that goes 
> back to 1990 and want to make sure it is available.  I just had to 
> work on a 1992 program.  I am updating to the new stuff, but the 
> business rules are the same, etc.
>
> My question is, how long can you keep stuff on an external hard drive 
> since that is how I am saving things now.  I have been backing 
> everything up to external hard drives and swapping them out off site.
>
> Because of non-disclosure agreements with major corporations I am 
> still reluctant to use an off line storage service.
>
> I guess they will be good until they fail.  ;^)
>
> Jeff
>
> ---------------
>
> Jeff Johnson
> [email protected]
> (623) 582-0323
>
> www.san-dc.com
>
>
> On 02/08/2011 01:19 PM, Lew wrote:
>> Just checking out the (mythical?) mandate to duplicate these babies 
>> onto
> new media every x years.
>> Lew
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Alan Bourke"<[email protected]>
>> Sender: [email protected]
>> Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 18:35:41
>> To:<[email protected]>
>> Reply-To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: VFP and Source control Thanks!
>>
>> Big organizations, they're just bullsh!t-multiplying devices.
>>
>> On Tue, 08 Feb 2011 12:09 -0600, "Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox)"
>> <[email protected]>   wrote:
>>> Personally, I have found that to be the *only* way to survive in big 
>>> organizations. Back when I used to work for a living, I can recall 
>>> several times being called to the carpet for not using proper 
>>> channels. "Gee, I am sorry -- I didn't know. Sure is good to have it 
>>> done and working though, isn't it?"
>>>
>>> Once I had a corporate advertising person red in the face trying to 
>>> explain just how badly I could have messed up. Very funny, as I 
>>> didn't actually *violate* the rule, I just didn't *know* the rule.
>>> (Or in her lexicon, I "almost' broke the rule. Go figure.)
>>>
>>> Ken
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Jeff Johnson<[email protected]>   wrote:
>>>> I don't know.  That just struck me as an interesting quote.  I find 
>>>> myself thinking about it!
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes it's better to ask forgiveness than permission.
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