What a bizarre response.
There is a major difference between U.S.S.R and France. U.S.S.R. is a
dictatorship superimposed on the idea of communism. Always was and is
rapidly moving that way again with Putin stealing the votes. People were all
forced to work for the state. An interview I read by a reporter a couple of
years ago who toured some U.S.S.R. factories made this comment from a
worker, "We pretend to work and the govt. pretends to pay us."
You rail against the U.S. and how insignificant we are but now you state
that France economy has crashed because of the U.S. poor economy. I recall
that Geoff of Australia was spouting the same contradictory idea some time
ago.
I said that the 75% tax would not get them far not that socialism hasn't
occurred. Difficult to spell out everything clearly in a text message.
It takes a long time for socialism to destroy a country inch by inch. It is
a logarithmic change and speeds up as the years go by until all of a sudden
the world economy get trashed.
Up to your pathetic remarks. Always have to make personal derogatory remarks
attempting to get cute. The Democrats are doing the same thing in Ohio
throwing out ads demonizing Mitt Romney. They are really getting desperate.
I find adding adjectives to every noun very misleading, "brutal capitalism",
my ass. What caused our crash has been discussed ad nauseum for the past
year. Basically our govt wrote a blank check and guaranteed loans by banks
to all comers regardless of their ability to pay. Alan Greenspan sold a bill
of goods to our Congress who went along with the plan. Bankers went along
because they could make loans without using their own money and collect huge
fees for doing so. This had nothing to do with capitalism. It was outright
fraud against the American people.
If bankers had to use their own money, you can bet they would not have made
those loans.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ricardo Aráoz" <[email protected]>
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So in your view there is no political difference whatsoever between
France and the URSS?
You take the fun out of it. You'll just admit you are ignorant.
BTW, "let's see how far that gets them" implies they are just starting
to be socialist and you, who know better (because of your greater
experience in a socialist country I guess), are foreseeing what lies
ahead. Please don't be shy, books won't turn you down like ladies do,
they will let you read them. Newspapers too.
Does Miterrand ring a bell? As in France's Socialist president in 1986?
TWENTY NINE YEARS AGO!!!
But hey, whoever say doom would come fast? It takes it's time, doesn't it?
What's more, the French "welfare state" developed much earlier, it has
been developing since the 18th century.
More recently, the social security administration started in 1945 and
has been gradually extending social protection to all residents in
France. That's a long time. Isn't it.
France actually spends 30% of GDP in the welfare system. What is the
percentage USA spends in military system? What does it tell us? That
France prioritizes solidarity and the well being of it's citizens while
USA prioritizes killing other people?
And let me remind you that right now France is in dire straits, as is
the rest of the world, not because of welfare but because of the
economic crisis generated in the US.
So let's see, it would seem the problems have not been caused by
socialism, nor the welfare system, but because of savage capitalism and
lack of control over speculation. Ironic, isn't it?
El 10/12 23:36, Nicholas Geti escribió:
Socialism = Communism
In either case only a handful of people "work for the common good". The
rest are on the dole. A perfect example is France which is a cradle to
grave socialistic state and they are trying to raise the tax rate to 75%
on rich people. Let's see how far that gets them.
Nick Geti
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricardo Aráoz" <[email protected]>
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Which only proves the depth of your ignorance.
El 10/10/12 13:26, Nicholas Geti escribió:
Yep. The two words are spelled differently but the result is the same.
Nick Geti
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricardo Aráoz" <[email protected]>
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I think you are wrong there. We all work for the good of *our* system.
For example when your soldiers entered WWII. When your whole country
worked for the "war effort". It didn't look so bad then. Why? Is it
because if "we all work" to kill other people it is all right but if "we
all work" to help other people then it's not?
BTW, when "we all work for the good of" *our* system is not communism,
it's socialism. Not the same by far.
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