I like to think of Cap [: as a left identity element for the tree 
representation of a fork.

f g h is

 g
f  h

and [: g h is

 g
   h

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On Jul 27, 2012, at 8:10 AM, Raul Miller <rauldmil...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Dan Bron <j...@bron.us> wrote:
>> In a draft, I had originally written "Meaning its definition is irrelevant".
>> I think that sums it up.
> 
> Change "definition" to "imperative definition" and that seems reasonable.
> 
> Mostly we think of using J verbs using their imperative tense.
> Gerunds (and other nouns) are passive and we use a different concept
> of definition when dealing with passive forms than we do when dealing
> with active forms.
> 
> (As an aside, note that the practice of using the gerund as a noun
> seems to be characteristic of English but not latin languages --
> there, they seem to like using the infinitive for this purupose.   But
> I am parroting what I read here, and I do not have any deeper insights
> on this topic.)
> 
> Anyways, the definition which is relevant when cap is the left tine of
> a fork is a passive definition, and not an imperative definition.  And
> making this distinction -- that it's being used passively -- seems
> worthwhile.
> 
>> Everything we discuss re J is modulo bugs, unless we constrain ourselves to
>> the Platonic J embodied in the DoJ.  Precision issues are again not
>> grammatically anomalous, and in fact could also be considered semantically
>> transparent, if we hold numbers to be analytic (or constrain our discussion
>> to Platonic J).
> 
> I do prefer to ignore precision issues when I can get away with it.
> 
> -- 
> Raul
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