thanks. i expected that to be the case

(of course, there's the readability issue which is important to people who
are scientists and engineers rather than coders - i often write nested
anonymous (pure) function calls in WL myself and nobody can figure out
what's going on except by seeing the result of applying it - i'm a MAJOR
fan of 'write only' code although sometimes i can't even figure out what
i've written   without running the code).

 i'll pass your results on to Jon and to stephen.

btw - i hope nobody in the J programming group objects to these exchanges.
i think that J and WL are the only languages worth anything (i abhor Do
loops - i want to calculate what i want to calculate and not have to spend
time getting a dumb computer to understand what it needs to do in terms it
can understand - i had enough of that with teaching graduate students
for 30 years) and there's a lot of commonality between the two except that
J and APL and K and Q seem to be oriented primarily towards very fast
financial analysis while WL is the language for computing in science in
general). i love them both and am definitely not trying to pit one against
the other.


On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 1:14 PM, bob therriault <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hi Richard,
>
> When I read through the background of the link, I found that a comparison
> with J was done and the programmer, Jon McLoone, posted the results as a
> response to a comment:
>
> " I quickly ran the code on J and got ratios of lines:0.5, characters:
> 0.74, tokens:0.5, over 432 comparisons i.e. J is about half the length of
> Mathematica code."
>
> Posted by Jon McLoone    November 14, 2012 at 3:04 pm
> http://blog.wolfram.com/2012/11/14/code-length-measured-in-14-languages/
>
> Cheers, bob
>
> On 2013-09-13, at 10:55 AM, Richard Gaylord wrote:
>
> > btw - i'm glad we're doing this since Wolfram people did a comparision of
> > program conciseness in various languages but left out J and APL for some
> > reason.
>
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