No problem Richard,

The quote I used was actually from Jon on his blog post, so I imagine he is 
already aware. ;)

If you wish to pursue the topic of language comparison between WL and J, it 
would probably be best to move over to the Chat forum <[email protected]>   :)

Cheers, bob 

On 2013-09-13, at 11:57 AM, Richard Gaylord wrote:

> thanks. i expected that to be the case
> 
> (of course, there's the readability issue which is important to people who
> are scientists and engineers rather than coders - i often write nested
> anonymous (pure) function calls in WL myself and nobody can figure out
> what's going on except by seeing the result of applying it - i'm a MAJOR
> fan of 'write only' code although sometimes i can't even figure out what
> i've written   without running the code).
> 
> i'll pass your results on to Jon and to stephen.
> 
> btw - i hope nobody in the J programming group objects to these exchanges.
> i think that J and WL are the only languages worth anything (i abhor Do
> loops - i want to calculate what i want to calculate and not have to spend
> time getting a dumb computer to understand what it needs to do in terms it
> can understand - i had enough of that with teaching graduate students
> for 30 years) and there's a lot of commonality between the two except that
> J and APL and K and Q seem to be oriented primarily towards very fast
> financial analysis while WL is the language for computing in science in
> general). i love them both and am definitely not trying to pit one against
> the other.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 1:14 PM, bob therriault <[email protected]>wrote:
> 
>> Hi Richard,
>> 
>> When I read through the background of the link, I found that a comparison
>> with J was done and the programmer, Jon McLoone, posted the results as a
>> response to a comment:
>> 
>> " I quickly ran the code on J and got ratios of lines:0.5, characters:
>> 0.74, tokens:0.5, over 432 comparisons i.e. J is about half the length of
>> Mathematica code."
>> 
>> Posted by Jon McLoone    November 14, 2012 at 3:04 pm
>> http://blog.wolfram.com/2012/11/14/code-length-measured-in-14-languages/
>> 
>> Cheers, bob
>> 
>> On 2013-09-13, at 10:55 AM, Richard Gaylord wrote:
>> 
>>> btw - i'm glad we're doing this since Wolfram people did a comparision of
>>> program conciseness in various languages but left out J and APL for some
>>> reason.
>> 
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> 
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> 
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> Benjamin Franklin*
> 
> 
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> describing the natural world is a little bizarre."
> - Stephen Wolfram*
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