You have to run the build or save script of the package so as to build and copy files from Public to Addons folder of your computer, and then commit new changes of Addons as well. I have done this for you. Please try it yourself next time.
Пт, 20 сен 2013, Ian Clark писал(а): > Right, Bill, I've done that. And examining my checked-out repository (which > I call: jpublic to be able to recognise it in my home folder) I think I > understand its structure, and can see what to update. > > As a result I see from: http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/JAL/Build%20Log > that I've successfully rebuilt /labs/labs/ for j801 ... > > 2013 9 20 1 6 7 addonsbuilt: labs/labs/1.0 j801 > > ...and I've used jconsole to run: install'all', which tells me: > Downloading labs/labs... > Installing labs/labs... > > Now I can see my lab in the proper place in JQt (and it runs ok). > But when I fire up j801 JHS, I still can't see my lab in the Studio > dropdown menu. (Although I can load and run the addon). > I'm expecting it to say: > debug: Explicate a given tacit verb > > Is there yet another list I need to update, for the sake of JHS? > > (I've kept all my Mac "Terminal" logs). > > > > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 10:51 AM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > The Public repo can be checked out using > > > > $ svn co http://www.jsoftware.com/svn/public/trunk public > > > > Typically you need to set user folders ~Addons and ~Public in > > order to build scripts there. > > > > [1] http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Subversion > > > > Пт, 20 сен 2013, Ian Clark писал(а): > > > Okay, it wasn't quite as simple as I first thought. > > > > > > I'll make some time to fully understand what Bill is saying. > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 4:23 AM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > The lablist.txt was first introduced for jgtk. I guess it can > > > > simplify the logic of discovering labs. > > > > > > > > BTW for labs, it also needs to update the Public repository > > > > which is the real source. Otherwise your changes to Addons will be > > > > overwritten. > > > > > > > > Пт, 20 сен 2013, Ian Clark писал(а): > > > > > Thanks Bill, I went ahead and did it, just after sending my email. > > > > > (Revisions 4626 and 4627) > > > > > > > > > > Really quite easy (...and I've made myself a new checklist). > > > > > > > > > > Never really understood the need for lablist.txt. j602 doesn't need > > it. > > > > Is > > > > > it there just to control migration of labs from j602 to j801? (What > > part > > > > of > > > > > jwiki/pipermail should I read?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:46 AM, bill lam <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I guess that would be trivial, just use the "svn commit" command > > > > > > if you are using the command line interface. > > > > > > > > > > > > Пт, 20 сен 2013, Ian Clark писал(а): > > > > > > > I'm being lazy, Bill :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I work strictly from checklists when using svn. I don't have one > > for > > > > > > > updating lablist.txt (yet). I guess it's just a question of > > hunting > > > > for > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 12:49 PM, bill lam <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can that you can commit changes to svn, can you explain why > > you > > > > > > cannot > > > > > > > > change the lablist.txt? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 19 Sep, 2013, at 3:12 PM, Ian Clark <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's okay Bill, I've located the one verb I've used in > > misc.ijs > > > > and > > > > > > > > copied > > > > > > > > > it into tte.ijs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It works fine now in JQt. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But to run: tte.ijs -needs this line inserting in > > lablist.txt: > > > > > > > > > Debug;Explicate a given tacit verb;~addons/debug/tte/tte.ijt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > open '~addons/labs/labs/lablist.txt' NB. -to do the > > hand-edit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but I don't know how to fix lablist.txt via svn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 7:33 AM, bill lam < > > [email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Try load the specific script inside the specific misc folder > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> require '~addons/.../misc/....ijs' > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> On 19 Sep, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Ian Clark < > > [email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >>> Further to this, I've uploaded a new addon: 'debug/tte' > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> used like this: > > > > > > > > >>> require 'debug/tte' > > > > > > > > >>> mytacitverb tte > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> Studio > Labs --shows a new lab under Category: Debug: > > > > > > > > >>> Explicate (convert to explicit) a given tacit verb > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> Or you can get some rough'n'ready documentation with: > > > > > > > > >>> ABOUT_tte_ > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> At present it only works under j602. When I try it under > > > > j64-801 it > > > > > > > > fails > > > > > > > > >>> because: > > > > > > > > >>> require 'misc' > > > > > > > > >>> is no longer supported, giving the error: not found: > > > > > > > > >>> /Applications/j64-801/bin/misc > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 3:08 AM, Joe Bogner < > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>>> Thanks Ian. trace looks helpful too. I hadn't stumbled > > upon > > > > that > > > > > > yet. > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Ian Clark < > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>> Joe Bogner asks: > > > > > > > > >>>>> " Is there a utility to generate an explicit definition > > from > > > > a > > > > > > tacit > > > > > > > > >>>>> definition?" > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>> There've certainly been attempts at one. There hasn't > > been > > > > any > > > > > > > > >> published > > > > > > > > >>>>> improvement on this one by Zsban Ambrus: > > > > > > > > >>>>> http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Scripts/TacitToExplicit > > > > > > > > >>>>> ...though I've had an add-on on the stocks, waiting to > > get > > > > > > properly > > > > > > > > >>>> tested > > > > > > > > >>>>> for almost a year now. (Sorry... it was low priority.) > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>> I also wrote a "roadmap" a year ago to pull together all > > the > > > > > > relevant > > > > > > > > >>>> stuff > > > > > > > > >>>>> on jwiki... > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Guides/Tacit_to_explicit_roadmap > > > > > > > > >>>>> ...but I notice I didn't finish it (it needs to mention > > > > Ambrus's > > > > > > > > "tte", > > > > > > > > >>>> and > > > > > > > > >>>>> it's incomplete in "Approach #2"). > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>> On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Joe Bogner < > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> I'm learning the evaluation rules for tacit expressions, > > > > since > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > >>>>>> what's commonly posted as solutions. Is there a utility > > to > > > > > > generate > > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > >>>>>> explicit definition from a tacit definition? > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> For example, to generate a tacit expression from > > explicit > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> 13 : '(+/ y) % # y' > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> +/ % # > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Is there some routine to expand that out? (I've now > > learned > > > > that > > > > > > > > its a > > > > > > > > >>>>>> fork). It seems possible that it could expand out to > > > > multiple > > > > > > > > >> possible > > > > > > > > >>>>>> variants -- since as I understand, it's a reduced form. > > I've > > > > > > looked > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > >>>>>> fndisplay but didn't put too much time into it yet > > since I > > > > > > wasn't > > > > > > > > sure > > > > > > > > >>>>> that > > > > > > > > >>>>>> it's what I was looking for. > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Along those same lines, j6 shows a representation of an > > > > > > expression > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > >>>>> boxes > > > > > > > > >>>>>> which I've found to be helpful to understand how an > > > > expression > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > >>>>> grouped. > > > > > > > > >>>>>> I haven't seen that same functionality in j7 or j8. > > Does it > > > > > > exist? > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> I find myself spending a fair amount of time taking an > > > > > > expression > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > >>>>> then > > > > > > > > >>>>>> looking up its parts in the Vocabulary to understand > > what > > > > its > > > > > > doing. > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > >>>>>> For information about J forums see > > > > > > > > >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > >>>>> For information about J forums see > > > > > > > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > >>>> For information about J forums see > > > > > > > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > >>> For information about J forums see > > > > > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > >> For information about J forums see > > > > > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > For information about J forums see > > > > > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > For information about J forums see > > > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > For information about J forums see > > > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > ==================================================== > > > > > > GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 > > > > > > gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > For information about J forums see > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > For information about J forums see > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > > > > -- > > > > regards, > > > > ==================================================== > > > > GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 > > > > gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > -- > > regards, > > ==================================================== > > GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 > > gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- regards, ==================================================== GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
