The major difference between J6 and later versions is the IDE. The core 
language changes between J6 and J7 are very minor, and for most Jers' purposes, 
ignorable; there are no language changes in J8.

The purpose of introducing J7 was to give the J programmer access to more modem 
GUI-building tools. J8 improves upon this modernization and will eventually 
replace J7.

All this is long way of telling you that if you don't need to build windowed 
apps (for personal use or distribution), and getting J7/8 to work is a hassle, 
you don't need to upgrade. If J6 works and you like it, use it.*

-Dan

* I mostly use J6 because it's familiar and reliable, and easier to install on 
new machines. 

I do have both J7 and 8 installed and working, and while I like the editor 
window in those IDEs better, the J6 IDE feels snappier and more responsive to 
me, particularly on startup when I want to do a quick desktop calculation (and 
since I only use J for desktop calculations and headless scripting, the wd GUI 
improvements are irrelevant to me).

 
On Sep 29, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Jeremy Smith <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hey Bill, with the IFTQ_z_=:0 command I now get a Viewmat window to
> pop up, at least.  Unfortunately it's just a blank window, no fractal
> image.  Same result when I change the create function as you indicate
> below.
> 
> By follow the instructions on the wiki, you mean this page, right?
> http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/System/Beta/Install  As you can see it
> doesn't say much, just find the version for your system, unzip it into
> any directory and "check" the profile script.  I tried checking it but
> I wasn't sure what I was looking for.  Didn't see anything obviously
> wrong.
> 
> 
> Jeremy
> 
> Bill Lam wrote:
> 
>> I think Chris is correct the GUI or IFQT is not defined. So you
>> may try
> 
>> IFQT_z_=: 0
> 
>> If that still fails, then change that create verb into
> 
>> create=: 0:
> 
>> For the installation of jqt, you need ot follow the instructions
>> in the wiki page.
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