j7 (gtk) displays octal for binary data it decides that it can't print. J8 and jhs shows a pretty glyph in the same font, but its the same glyph for every char > 127.
The proposal is why not display them as u: 4 64 $ a. ┌┬┐├┼┤└┴┘│─ I assume are special coded already? ----- Original Message ----- From: bill lam <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Cc: Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 8:16:14 PM Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] font with extended ascii? -display binary data If you meant display them as octal like \123 then the ide must also escape all \ otherwise you cannot distinguish between textual and binary data, meaning the sum scan would displayed as +/\\ i.5 29.03.2014, в 0:11, Pascal Jasmin <[email protected]> написал(а): > J stores the full 8 bits of binary data. There very well may be a great > reason not to provide a friendly display for binary data, I just don't see it > yet. > > On another note, there seems to be a case for an extra dyad form for u: . > Say 9 u: > > It would behave as monad u: does for char and wchar, but for any other > argument type (including integers) would return ] y. I understand it not > being a priority since this can be implemented by users with 3!:0 checking. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Raul Miller <[email protected]> > To: Programming forum <[email protected]> > Cc: > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 10:22:18 AM > Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] font with extended ascii? -display binary data > > "Normal ascii" occupies only 7 bits, so it's 128{.a. (or u: i.128). > > The problems created by what to do with the other half of they byte (along > with our love/hate relationship with standards and professionalism) have a > lot to do with why we are using ascii instead of ebcdic. > > Thanks, > > -- > Raul > > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Pascal Jasmin <[email protected]>wrote: > >> thank you Raul, >> >> On further thought, it appears to be impractical to use larger than base >> 128 for binary encoding. >> >> A friendlier display of my numeric list compression routine is possible >> though u: >> >> BASE128 =: BASE64 , a.{~ 192 + i.64 >> >> >> u: compresslistnum 1000000239482039420348x 2 248 +"1 i. 3 3 >> bN5o8ÒÁDâïA BÀ ýA >> bN5o8ÒÁDâïà DA þÀ >> bN5o8ÒÁDâðÀ EÀ AÀA >> >> >> >> There is a formatting problem displaying boxed unicode data. Is there any >> chance that normal ascii could display as above for codes 192+? or boxed >> unicode could line up? >> >> and >> >> BASE128 i. 'bN5o8ÒÁDâðÀ EÀ AÀA' >> 27 13 57 40 60 67 128 67 128 3 67 128 67 128 67 128 128 4 67 128 128 0 67 >> 128 0 >> >> basically show that all of the extended characters are not found in >> BASE128 but >> >> a. i. 'bN5o8ÒÁDâðÀ EÀ AÀA' >> 98 78 53 111 56 195 146 195 129 68 195 162 195 176 195 128 32 69 195 128 >> 32 65 195 128 65 >> >> shows that 2 characters are embedded for extended chars (195 x), and >> intermixed with single codes. >> >> Worth noting is that the extended characters display in my html email >> client. >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Raul Miller <[email protected]> >> To: Programming forum <[email protected]> >> Cc: >> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 9:07:15 AM >> Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] font with extended ascii? -display binary data >> >> There's http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0080.pdf >> >> But it's not an informal page. >> >> 240-248 corresponds to the rightmost column (the one with the caption 00F), >> and the top half of that column (00F0 through 00F8 in the small print at >> the bottom of each cell). >> >> Thanks, >> >> -- >> Raul >> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Pascal Jasmin <[email protected] >>> wrote: >> >>> Jqt uses menlo as default font. Printing binary data over 127 all >> produce >>> identical "not found" glyphs. Is it a font issue? and is there a fixed >>> width font that would display extended ascii as this list (or as much of >> it >>> as possible)? iso-latin 1? Is there some informal code page that shows a >>> printable character for every (or 240-248) binary value(s)? >>> >>> http://www.danshort.com/ASCIImap/ >>> >>> >>> A related question is wd edit will not display the prettier line drawing >>> (box character set) symbols even when the font is set to Menlo. 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