Thanks. Your problem is un-related to extended ascii or fonts. What you told j ide to do was to display some illegal utf8 characters.
GIGO. I prefer to see some rubbish rather than something that appeared to be valid. ymmv. 29.03.2014, в 12:35, Pascal Jasmin <[email protected]> написал(а): > 4 64 $ a. > > does not display extended ascii with any font. > > u: 4 64 $ a. > > does with the default font and many others. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: bill lam <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Cc: > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 11:30:35 PM > Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] font with extended ascii? -display binary data > > I cannot understand your problem, you said lucida console workes > and then said it cannot display extended ascii. May be you can > show some J script with envioronment detail to reproduce the > problem and post screen-shots some where else. > > Пт, 28 мар 2014, Pascal Jasmin писал(а): >> I'm on windows. Tried in J6 and j8qt to set font to wingdings, and it did >> not display extended characters either. >> >> I assume its not a font issue, because u: a. displays fine in the default QT >> font (lucida console on windows). Font's that appear to have extended ascii >> characters display a ? inside a lozenge, where as those with undefined >> characters there, display an empty box. >> >> Another solution might be to use an alternate font for chars > 127 (just >> guessing)? >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: bill lam <[email protected]> >> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> Cc: >> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 10:11:07 PM >> Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] font with extended ascii? -display binary data >> >> I guess they are issues. You have to select a font with all glyphs for >> latin-1 first. Try unifont or some apl fonts if they are available on mac. >> >> Display control characters or illegal utf8 characters is another issue. >> >> How j ide interpret and display box characters is yet another issue. >> >> 29.03.2014, в 10:53, Pascal Jasmin <[email protected]> написал(а): >> >>> j7 (gtk) displays octal for binary data it decides that it can't print. J8 >>> and jhs shows a pretty glyph in the same font, but its the same glyph for >>> every char > 127. >>> >>> The proposal is why not display them as >>> u: 4 64 $ a. >>> >>> >>> ┌┬┐├┼┤└┴┘│─ I assume are special coded already? >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: bill lam <[email protected]> >>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>> Cc: >>> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 8:16:14 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] font with extended ascii? -display binary data >>> >>> If you meant display them as octal like \123 then the ide must also escape >>> all \ otherwise you cannot distinguish between textual and binary data, >>> meaning the sum scan would displayed as >>> >>> +/\\ i.5 >>> >>> 29.03.2014, в 0:11, Pascal Jasmin <[email protected]> написал(а): >>> >>>> J stores the full 8 bits of binary data. There very well may be a great >>>> reason not to provide a friendly display for binary data, I just don't see >>>> it yet. >>>> >>>> On another note, there seems to be a case for an extra dyad form for u: . >>>> Say 9 u: >>>> >>>> It would behave as monad u: does for char and wchar, but for any other >>>> argument type (including integers) would return ] y. I understand it not >>>> being a priority since this can be implemented by users with 3!:0 checking. >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Raul Miller <[email protected]> >>>> To: Programming forum <[email protected]> >>>> Cc: >>>> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 10:22:18 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] font with extended ascii? -display binary data >>>> >>>> "Normal ascii" occupies only 7 bits, so it's 128{.a. (or u: i.128). >>>> >>>> The problems created by what to do with the other half of they byte (along >>>> with our love/hate relationship with standards and professionalism) have a >>>> lot to do with why we are using ascii instead of ebcdic. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Raul >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Pascal Jasmin >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> thank you Raul, >>>>> >>>>> On further thought, it appears to be impractical to use larger than base >>>>> 128 for binary encoding. >>>>> >>>>> A friendlier display of my numeric list compression routine is possible >>>>> though u: >>>>> >>>>> BASE128 =: BASE64 , a.{~ 192 + i.64 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> u: compresslistnum 1000000239482039420348x 2 248 +"1 i. 3 3 >>>>> bN5o8ÒÁDâïA BÀ ýA >>>>> bN5o8ÒÁDâïà DA þÀ >>>>> bN5o8ÒÁDâðÀ EÀ AÀA >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> There is a formatting problem displaying boxed unicode data. Is there any >>>>> chance that normal ascii could display as above for codes 192+? or boxed >>>>> unicode could line up? >>>>> >>>>> and >>>>> >>>>> BASE128 i. 'bN5o8ÒÁDâðÀ EÀ AÀA' >>>>> 27 13 57 40 60 67 128 67 128 3 67 128 67 128 67 128 128 4 67 128 128 0 67 >>>>> 128 0 >>>>> >>>>> basically show that all of the extended characters are not found in >>>>> BASE128 but >>>>> >>>>> a. i. 'bN5o8ÒÁDâðÀ EÀ AÀA' >>>>> 98 78 53 111 56 195 146 195 129 68 195 162 195 176 195 128 32 69 195 128 >>>>> 32 65 195 128 65 >>>>> >>>>> shows that 2 characters are embedded for extended chars (195 x), and >>>>> intermixed with single codes. >>>>> >>>>> Worth noting is that the extended characters display in my html email >>>>> client. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: Raul Miller <[email protected]> >>>>> To: Programming forum <[email protected]> >>>>> Cc: >>>>> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 9:07:15 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] font with extended ascii? -display binary data >>>>> >>>>> There's http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0080.pdf >>>>> >>>>> But it's not an informal page. >>>>> >>>>> 240-248 corresponds to the rightmost column (the one with the caption >>>>> 00F), >>>>> and the top half of that column (00F0 through 00F8 in the small print at >>>>> the bottom of each cell). >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Raul >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Pascal Jasmin <[email protected] >>>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Jqt uses menlo as default font. Printing binary data over 127 all >>>>> produce >>>>>> identical "not found" glyphs. Is it a font issue? and is there a fixed >>>>>> width font that would display extended ascii as this list (or as much of >>>>> it >>>>>> as possible)? iso-latin 1? Is there some informal code page that shows a >>>>>> printable character for every (or 240-248) binary value(s)? >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.danshort.com/ASCIImap/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> A related question is wd edit will not display the prettier line drawing >>>>>> (box character set) symbols even when the font is set to Menlo. 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