4 64 $ a. does not display extended ascii with any font.
u: 4 64 $ a. does with the default font and many others. ----- Original Message ----- From: bill lam <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 11:30:35 PM Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] font with extended ascii? -display binary data I cannot understand your problem, you said lucida console workes and then said it cannot display extended ascii. May be you can show some J script with envioronment detail to reproduce the problem and post screen-shots some where else. Пт, 28 мар 2014, Pascal Jasmin писал(а): > I'm on windows. Tried in J6 and j8qt to set font to wingdings, and it did > not display extended characters either. > > I assume its not a font issue, because u: a. displays fine in the default QT > font (lucida console on windows). Font's that appear to have extended ascii > characters display a ? inside a lozenge, where as those with undefined > characters there, display an empty box. > > Another solution might be to use an alternate font for chars > 127 (just > guessing)? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: bill lam <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Cc: > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 10:11:07 PM > Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] font with extended ascii? -display binary data > > I guess they are issues. You have to select a font with all glyphs for > latin-1 first. Try unifont or some apl fonts if they are available on mac. > > Display control characters or illegal utf8 characters is another issue. > > How j ide interpret and display box characters is yet another issue. > > 29.03.2014, в 10:53, Pascal Jasmin <[email protected]> написал(а): > > > j7 (gtk) displays octal for binary data it decides that it can't print. J8 > > and jhs shows a pretty glyph in the same font, but its the same glyph for > > every char > 127. > > > > The proposal is why not display them as > > u: 4 64 $ a. > > > > > > ┌┬┐├┼┤└┴┘│─ I assume are special coded already? > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: bill lam <[email protected]> > > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > Cc: > > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 8:16:14 PM > > Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] font with extended ascii? -display binary data > > > > If you meant display them as octal like \123 then the ide must also escape > > all \ otherwise you cannot distinguish between textual and binary data, > > meaning the sum scan would displayed as > > > > +/\\ i.5 > > > > 29.03.2014, в 0:11, Pascal Jasmin <[email protected]> написал(а): > > > >> J stores the full 8 bits of binary data. There very well may be a great > >> reason not to provide a friendly display for binary data, I just don't see > >> it yet. > >> > >> On another note, there seems to be a case for an extra dyad form for u: . > >> Say 9 u: > >> > >> It would behave as monad u: does for char and wchar, but for any other > >> argument type (including integers) would return ] y. I understand it not > >> being a priority since this can be implemented by users with 3!:0 checking. > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Raul Miller <[email protected]> > >> To: Programming forum <[email protected]> > >> Cc: > >> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 10:22:18 AM > >> Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] font with extended ascii? -display binary data > >> > >> "Normal ascii" occupies only 7 bits, so it's 128{.a. (or u: i.128). > >> > >> The problems created by what to do with the other half of they byte (along > >> with our love/hate relationship with standards and professionalism) have a > >> lot to do with why we are using ascii instead of ebcdic. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> -- > >> Raul > >> > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Pascal Jasmin > >> <[email protected]>wrote: > >> > >>> thank you Raul, > >>> > >>> On further thought, it appears to be impractical to use larger than base > >>> 128 for binary encoding. > >>> > >>> A friendlier display of my numeric list compression routine is possible > >>> though u: > >>> > >>> BASE128 =: BASE64 , a.{~ 192 + i.64 > >>> > >>> > >>> u: compresslistnum 1000000239482039420348x 2 248 +"1 i. 3 3 > >>> bN5o8ÒÁDâïA BÀ ýA > >>> bN5o8ÒÁDâïà DA þÀ > >>> bN5o8ÒÁDâðÀ EÀ AÀA > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> There is a formatting problem displaying boxed unicode data. Is there any > >>> chance that normal ascii could display as above for codes 192+? or boxed > >>> unicode could line up? > >>> > >>> and > >>> > >>> BASE128 i. 'bN5o8ÒÁDâðÀ EÀ AÀA' > >>> 27 13 57 40 60 67 128 67 128 3 67 128 67 128 67 128 128 4 67 128 128 0 67 > >>> 128 0 > >>> > >>> basically show that all of the extended characters are not found in > >>> BASE128 but > >>> > >>> a. i. 'bN5o8ÒÁDâðÀ EÀ AÀA' > >>> 98 78 53 111 56 195 146 195 129 68 195 162 195 176 195 128 32 69 195 128 > >>> 32 65 195 128 65 > >>> > >>> shows that 2 characters are embedded for extended chars (195 x), and > >>> intermixed with single codes. > >>> > >>> Worth noting is that the extended characters display in my html email > >>> client. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: Raul Miller <[email protected]> > >>> To: Programming forum <[email protected]> > >>> Cc: > >>> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 9:07:15 AM > >>> Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] font with extended ascii? -display binary data > >>> > >>> There's http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0080.pdf > >>> > >>> But it's not an informal page. > >>> > >>> 240-248 corresponds to the rightmost column (the one with the caption > >>> 00F), > >>> and the top half of that column (00F0 through 00F8 in the small print at > >>> the bottom of each cell). > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Raul > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Pascal Jasmin <[email protected] > >>>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Jqt uses menlo as default font. Printing binary data over 127 all > >>> produce > >>>> identical "not found" glyphs. Is it a font issue? and is there a fixed > >>>> width font that would display extended ascii as this list (or as much of > >>> it > >>>> as possible)? iso-latin 1? Is there some informal code page that shows a > >>>> printable character for every (or 240-248) binary value(s)? > >>>> > >>>> http://www.danshort.com/ASCIImap/ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> A related question is wd edit will not display the prettier line drawing > >>>> (box character set) symbols even when the font is set to Menlo. 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