Nice work Devon, I think that I would go with your instincts and leave } out, since it is considerably more complicated than the other parts of speech that you have included. It would complete the pair in a typographic sense, but I don't think that is a strong argument to include it. It also is an adverb that tends to remove me from array style thinking when I use it, but that be my limitation more than that of the entity.
Cheers, bob On Sep 2, 2014, at 11:56 AM, Devon McCormick <[email protected]> wrote: > I thought of including { and probably will. The only thing that deterred > me was thinking that I probably should also include } as well, to be > complete, and this is a little more complex. > > > > On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Vijay Lulla <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Just out of curiosity, why is { not included? I use it extensively for my J >> explorations. Also, it is much more regular and useful(flexible?) than >> indexing in other languages. For e.g., You cannot mix +ve and -ve indexes >> in R but it works as expected (at least for me) in J. Regardless, nice >> work. >> >> Thanks, >> Vijay. >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Devon McCormick <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Based on Skip's suggestion, this page is now here - >>> http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/DevonMcCormick/MinimalBeginningJ - and is >>> titled "Minimal J for Beginners". >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Devon McCormick <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Good point - I picked up the "J Kernel" label from the discussion. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Skip Cave <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Devon, nice job of putting together a reduced set of primitives for >> rhe >>>>> beginner. The only issue I see is the name. As a beginner, I would >> never >>>>> think to find a set of most-commonly-used primitives under the name "J >>>>> Kernel" That actually sounds like a discussion of the internals of J, >>>>> which >>>>> is what I thought when I read the subject of your email. I doubt that >> a >>>>> beginner would check out a page with that label. A title like "J's >> Basic >>>>> Commands for Beginners" or equivalent, would be more likely to attract >>> the >>>>> intended audience. >>>>> >>>>> Skp >>>>> >>>>> Skip Cave >>>>> Cave Consulting LLC >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Devon McCormick <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Based on some feedback from Greg Borota last year on his experiences >>>>>> learning J, I've put together a page on the J Wiki - >>>>>> http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/DevonMcCormick/JKernel - that has a >>> few >>>>>> selected things from J on which a beginner can concentrate to avoid >>>>> being >>>>>> overwhelmed by the language in full. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's a pretty bare minimum and I couldn't find a good link that >>> explains >>>>>> J's use of single quote for quoted strings but everyone should feel >>>>> free to >>>>>> add to it - sparingly, as it's supposed to be a reduced set of the >>>>>> language. >>>>>> >>>>>> It might make sense to leave the existing page much as it is and to >>>>> think >>>>>> about a 2nd tier of slightly more advanced verbs and such. There >> were >>>>> good >>>>>> suggestions in the original discussion - >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >> http://jsoftware.2058.n7.nabble.com/Learning-J-language-initial-thoughts-td52786.html#a52793 >>>>>> - that I elided as I consider them more than the bare minimum >> (things >>>>> like >>>>>> rank modifiers and logic verbs). >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Devon McCormick, CFA >>>>>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> For information about J forums see >>> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>>>>> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> For information about J forums see >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Devon McCormick, CFA >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Devon McCormick, CFA >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> > > > > -- > Devon McCormick, CFA > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
