Some beginners do have math beyond +.-.*.%.
If one knows what a logarithm is, and the assumption behind**monadic*^.* is the natural log-then why not*^* as it is related?
Just put ^1 is 2.71828....
If they don't know, then they are may not be interested in logarithms -certainly not for multiplication and division of multidigit numbers as with the old log tables or slide rules.. Similarly some beginners do use complex numbers-I certainly considered them essential when starting



On 02/09/2014 6:16 PM, Devon McCormick wrote:
Henry - I intend to link it into the beginner resources once I've settled
on how it should look.

Alex - I left out monadic ^ for lack of a good word.  I'm not sure that
"Exp(x)" or "exponentiation" is worth the clutter.



On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Alex Giannakopoulos <[email protected]
wrote:
Just a teeny thing, but if you are going to have both the monadic and the
dyadic definitions for ^.  then shouldn't you have the same for ^   ?
Less confusion that way, plus a better insight into the way J uses dyads.


On 2 September 2014 22:14, Henry Rich <[email protected]> wrote:

What I meant was, arrange so Getting Started and NuVoc point to your
page.  Beginners should be able to make their way to one of those pages.

Henry Rich


On 9/2/2014 4:47 PM, Henry Rich wrote:

Please link NuVoc, and Getting Started, to this.

Henry Rich

On 9/2/2014 12:36 PM, Skip Cave wrote:

Devon, nice job of putting together a reduced set of primitives for rhe
beginner. The only issue I see is the name. As a beginner, I would
never
think to find a set of most-commonly-used primitives under the name "J
Kernel" That actually sounds like a discussion of the internals of J,
which
is what I thought when I read the subject of your email. I doubt that a
beginner would check out a page with that label. A title like "J's
Basic
Commands for Beginners" or equivalent, would be more likely to attract
the
intended audience.

Skp

Skip Cave
Cave Consulting LLC


On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Devon McCormick <[email protected]>
wrote:

  Based on some feedback from Greg Borota last year on his experiences
learning J, I've put together a page on the J Wiki -
http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/DevonMcCormick/JKernel - that has a
few
selected things from J on which a beginner can concentrate to avoid
being
overwhelmed by the language in full.

It's a pretty bare minimum and I couldn't find a good link that
explains
J's use of single quote for quoted strings but everyone should feel
free to
add to it - sparingly, as it's supposed to be a reduced set of the
language.

It might make sense to leave the existing page much as it is and to
think
about a 2nd tier of slightly more advanced verbs and such.  There
were good
suggestions in the original discussion -

http://jsoftware.2058.n7.nabble.com/Learning-J-
language-initial-thoughts-td52786.html#a52793

- that I elided as I consider them more than the bare minimum (things
like
rank modifiers and logic verbs).

--
Devon McCormick, CFA
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