Fortunately the androids can be relatively inexpensive. I prefer now to have a separate phone and then a small machine to go online as well as for J with a little bigger display than the phone. The latter one is also great for skype. Use only wifi on that machine. On 20 Mar 2015 19:02, "Henry Rich" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I expect you're right. > > Perusing the Qt documentation, they recommend not trying to use the > desktop Qt for phones, and using QtQuick instead, which J doesn't support > yet. > > And, as you say, the supported events are not documented. > > So, I don't think I can do anything to make dissect work better on android. > > Henry Rich > > On 3/20/2015 10:52 AM, bill lam wrote: > >> I think that you need some hand-on experience of using jqt for android to >> appreciate the differences between a large screen vs small screen, mouse >> vs >> touch screen, overlapping window vs fullscreen , also to know which events >> are physically impossible. >> >> AFAIK Qt documentation does explicitly telling which events are not >> supported on android. >> >> Android ui can make use of gestures but they are not (yet?) supported by >> Qt. >> On Mar 20, 2015 10:11 PM, "Henry Rich" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I would like to help on this, but I need info that I don't know how to >>> get. The main questions have to do the gl2 on android. I don't see any >>> documentation on this: >>> >>> 1. What gl2 events can be created under android? What user action >>> creates >>> them? >>> >>> Also, >>> >>> 2. Is there a generally-accepted way to produce a hover event? Or does >>> the user have to click something to see a tooltip? >>> >>> >>> I am totally lost as to how to proceed. I could implement something >>> like, >>> press PF4 followed by a click to ask for a tooltip, and PF5 followed by a >>> click to simulate a right-click, and so on, but I don't want to invent a >>> new user interface, because surely there is some standardization about >>> this. I just don't know how to find out what is in use. >>> >>> >>> >>> Some of the issues raised here have to do with the dissect labs. Dissect >>> supports ctrl-J to advance the lab. If a PFkey would be easier to use, I >>> could support that too. >>> >>> Henry Rich >>> >>> On 3/20/2015 6:46 AM, bill lam wrote: >>> >>> On android, usually every form is full-screen, so that desktop >>>> UI is not optimized for running on android. If the lab author >>>> want to continue to use the same wd form without returning to >>>> IDE, he can implement some ui element to call labadvance. >>>> >>>> If a wd form is not full screen and something seemed broken, >>>> I would not consider it to be a bug. >>>> >>>> Пт, 20 мар 2015, Björn Helgason написал(а): >>>> >>>> I sometimes see the Fn buttons at the same time as dissect displays. >>>>> I can press F6 and it furthers the lab. >>>>> F1 does nothing. >>>>> I can not type anythin in to the term window and the copy/paste does >>>>> not >>>>> work. >>>>> On 20 Mar 2015 01:34, "bill lam" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> wd'smact' will activate and show session Term, this is the same >>>>> >>>>>> for both desktops and android. For android, tapping F1 will jump >>>>>> to a wd form. >>>>>> >>>>>> I know every little of the IDE itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> form timers should work but I suspect there are no mmove events >>>>>> for android. You need to implement an alternative for android UI. >>>>>> >>>>>> Чт, 19 мар 2015, Henry Rich написал(а): >>>>>> >>>>>> How would the application show the IDE? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In this case it would be nice to be able to go back & forth between >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> >>>>>>> IDE >>>>>> >>>>>> and dissect, since dissect is in effect an assistant to the IDE. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Would it be possible for dissect to be put onto a tab in the IDE, as >>>>>>> Ian >>>>>>> suggected a while back? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Do the form timers work on Android? Hover text just requires mmove >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> ptimer events. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Henry Rich >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 3/19/2015 7:47 PM, bill lam wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> press back button will rotate wd forms. ide is hidden when there are >>>>>>>> wd >>>>>>>> forms. User applications need to provide some means to show ide if >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> that is >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> what is needed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 19, 2015 9:54 PM, "Björn Helgason" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am trying to go through the dissect lab on my android. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The lab works fine. >>>>>>>>> The dissect image displays fine. >>>>>>>>> Sometimes it takes over parts of the screen and sometimes all of >>>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>>> I can get back to the terminal by using the return button a few >>>>>>>>> times >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> then the dissect window is no longer to be found. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I tried to view the wd form but that shows nothing. >>>>>>>>> This is not a big issue. >>>>>>>>> I am merely wondering if I should be able to go back and forth. >>>>>>>>> I can not see how to get the hover text either. >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>> ---------- >>>>>>>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/ >>>>>>>>> forums.htm >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ---------- >>>>>>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/ >>>>>>>> forums.htm >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- >>>>>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/ >>>>>>> forums.htm >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> regards, >>>>>> ==================================================== >>>>>> GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 >>>>>> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 >>>>>> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --armor --export 4434BAB3 >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> ---------- >>>>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/ >>>>>> forums.htm >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> ---------- >>>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> ---------- >>>> >>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
