IMO errors reported in wdhandler reflect there are some
programming bugs or unexpected behavior.  If it occurs in
production systems then end users who have no J knowledge should
whatsapp the screen shot to the developer. Providing more choices
will confuse end users further.

Пт, 20 май 2016, Raul Miller написал(а):
> I am seeing some odd things here. One of which is that the previous
> documentation for wdquery --
> http://www.jsoftware.com/docs/help701/user/script_winlib.htm#wdquery
> -- seems to no longer be valid. Another is that I can not find
> documentation for wdquery for the current release. (And I am seeing
> other oddities in behavior, but I am going to stop trying to enumerate
> those oddities with those two observations.)
> 
> Anyways, perhaps wdhandler should be changed, replacing
> 
>       wdinfo 'wdhandler';'error in: ',wd_fn,wd_err
> 
> with something like
> 
>       if. 0~:wdquery 'wdhandler';'error in: ',wd_fn,wd_err,LF,'continue?' do.
>         echo 'DISABLED_',wd_fn
>         ('DISABLED_',wd_fn)=: (5!:1<wd_fn)5!:0
>         erase wd_fn
>       end.
> 
> (but, beware email induced line wrap)
> 
> In other words:
> 
> [1] Give the user the opportunity to continue. Depending on details of
> other parts of the system, this may or may not result in further
> problems.
> 
> [2] If the user opts not to continue, set aside the definition of the
> current event handler (which failed) and disable it. (Hypothetically
> speaking, we might be able to skip the setting aside part, because the
> definition should be in a script. However, in some cases it might not
> be.)
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -- 
> Raul
> 
> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:59 PM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I checked agin, it is the local noun wd_fn inside wdhandler.
> > so perhaps you can try
> >  ". wd_fn,'=:empty'
> >  or
> >  4!:55 <wd_fn
> > inside the catch block.
> >
> > Пт, 20 май 2016, bill lam написал(а):
> >> the first few rows of wdq (global set inside wdhander) should provide that
> >> info. see j user manual or jwiki for wd documentation.
> >> On May 20, 2016 6:55 AM, "Raul Miller" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Is there a systematic way of determining which verb name is the name
> >> > of the currently running event handler?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Raul
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 7:27 AM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > > c++ jqt side did not know what had happened on the j engine so it will
> >> > keep
> >> > > on calling J on paint.  You need to make j paint verb a no-op after the
> >> > > first popup.
> >> > >
> >> > > For debug suspension, you may want try catchd instead of catch.
> >> > suspension
> >> > > in the presence of events is rather troublesome. IIRC all events except
> >> > > paint are discarded during suspension, so that you may still get 
> >> > > infinite
> >> > > in suspension.
> >> > >
> >> > > what I used to do is set
> >> > > wdinfo_z_=: smoutput_z_
> >> > > in order to debug gl paint error.
> >> > > On May 19, 2016 5:28 PM, "Raul Miller" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> So... maybe it would make sense to replace
> >> > >>
> >> > >>       wdinfo 'wdhandler';'error in: ',wd_fn,wd_err
> >> > >>
> >> > >> in wdhandler with something like
> >> > >>
> >> > >>       if. -.wdquery 'wdhandler';'error in:
> >> > >> ',wd_fn,wd_err,LF,'continue?' do.throw.end.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> ?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Except... I tried that, and throw. was not sufficient to stop the
> >> > >> infinite condition with debugging disabled, and that line of code
> >> > >> never runs with debugging enabled. So there is something else going
> >> > >> on, also...
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Perhaps the best compromise for development purposes would be to
> >> > >> disable the offending handler (erase the name) if the user elects
> >> > >> cancelling out of it?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Thanks,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> --
> >> > >> Raul
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 6:36 PM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > >> > the popup dialog box is raised by a try catch block in the verb
> >> > >> wdhandler,
> >> > >> > since it does not throw an error after the popup, there is no
> >> > suspension.
> >> > >> > the gl area partially hidden by the popup box is repainted and since
> >> > the
> >> > >> gl
> >> > >> > paint or any other jqt events has no knowledge that there has been 
> >> > >> > an
> >> > >> error
> >> > >> > in j wdhander being caught so there is an infinite loop.  You may 
> >> > >> > add
> >> > >> some
> >> > >> > codes in the j paint verb to detect that error condition.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > this had been reported but fixing it is a low priority.
> >> > >> > On May 19, 2016 5:09 AM, "Raul Miller" <[email protected]> 
> >> > >> > wrote:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >> Currently, if I am using the gl commands for an isigraph control, 
> >> > >> >> and
> >> > >> >> there's an error, I get behavior which I do not understand.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> (1) I get a popup telling me that there was an error (and giving me
> >> > >> >> the details of the error.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> (2) I only have an "OK" option on that popup.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> (3) When I click "OK", execution resumes as if there were no error
> >> > >> >> (presumably on the line following the line with the error.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> This quickly leads to an infinite loop condition where my only 
> >> > >> >> option
> >> > >> >> is to shut down J.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> At the very least, I think I should get an option to have the error
> >> > >> >> stop execution somehow.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> (13!:0]1 avoids this problem, but why was it a good idea to make me
> >> > >> >> lose control of the J session in the first place?)
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> (I'm not sure if this goes in jsource, since I think this is a jqt
> >> > >> >> issue, not a j engine issue. Please let me know, though, if 
> >> > >> >> there's a
> >> > >> >> better forum for this topic.)
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> Thanks,
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> --
> >> > >> >> Raul
> >> > >> >>
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