If you can't install the deb, try the tgz version. On 30 May, 2017 7:54 am, "Michael Rice" <[email protected]> wrote:
I have the package j805_amd64.deb for my amd fx-8320. Fedora install of *.deb package, based upon instructions here: https://www.systutorials.com/qa/212/how-to-install-deb-packages-on-fedora [mrice@localhost ~]$ wget http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/alien/alien_8.88.tar.gz --2017-05-29 19:43:52-- http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/alien/alien_8.88.tar.gz Resolving ftp.de.debian.org (ftp.de.debian.org)... 141.76.2.4 Connecting to ftp.de.debian.org (ftp.de.debian.org)|141.76.2.4|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found 2017-05-29 19:43:52 ERROR 404: Not Found. [mrice@localhost ~]$ On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote: > ] is an identify function. Specifically, the value of its result is > its right argument. > > An expression of the form f g h (where f, g and h are verbs) is a > fork: the arguments to g are the results of f and h applied to the > arguments of the fork. > > And, finally, an expression of the form i g h (where i is a noun) is > also a fork, because i gets converted to the verb i"_ (which basically > just means that the left argument to g is i). > > ------ > > Meanwhile, these expressions have equivalent results, for nouns id and k: > > k { id > {&id k > > k { id > id {~ k > (id {~ ]) k > > ------ > > Meanwhile, these are different from the above, but equivalent to each > other: > id&{~ k > k id&{ k > > ... but you probably do not want to go there right now... > > ------ > > Finally, for installation problems (getting J to run on fedora), if > you have time, maybe post the errors you were getting (along with what > you did to get them) to the general@jsoftware list? > > Thanks, > > -- > Raul > > > On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Michael Rice <[email protected]> > wrote: > > (id {~ ])? > > > > I don't understand the usage of ] in the above. > > > > From the NuVoc docs: > > > > Use in the J session to both display a noun and assign it to a name with > a > > single sentence > > > > ] z=: i:2 > > _2 _1 0 1 2 > > > > Typo? > > > > (id {~ ]) move? > > > > What does it expand to? Where's the assignment of a function to a name? > > > > Earlier, I tried to curry the { function > > > > move { id > > > > to > > > > f =: (id & {~) > > > > Seemed like that should work, like this > > > > f 0 2 5 => 3 by 15 array > > > > but I think I got a syntax error when I tried it. > > > > I couldn't get get J running on my Fedora 24 install (where I am now), so > > put it on Win 10 on my dual-boot box and will get back to it after I run > > some errands. > > > > Thanks, all. > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 10:27 AM, Raul Miller <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> Hmm... > >> > >> First, here's an expression for a 15 by 15 identity matrix: > >> > >> id=: 15 15$16{.1 > >> > >> But (id {~) is invalid syntax, so perhaps, instead use =&(i.15)"0 > >> > >> For example: > >> > >> =&(i.15)"0 ] 2 3 5 > >> 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 > >> 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 > >> 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 > >> > >> That said, (id {~ ]) is syntactically valid and does the same thing > >> (except for arguments outside the domain). > >> > >> I hope this helps, > >> > >> -- > >> Raul > >> > >> > >> On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 9:22 AM, Michael Rice <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > Thanks. > >> > > >> > I found that after I couldn't find it and wrote my own, but it seemed > to > >> be > >> > changing one of my function parameters, the left one, so I moved back > to > >> my > >> > definition. > >> > > >> > I'm again having a similar problem stringing these verbs, adverbs, > etc. > >> > together to form the function I want. > >> > > >> > I created an 15 by 15 identity matrix, call it id, and substituted > this > >> > > >> > (1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 |.!.0~ > >> > 3 1 $ -) > >> > > >> > for this > >> > > >> > (id {~) > >> > > >> > Much cleaner and, no doubt, faster. Win. Win. > >> > > >> > Naively, I thought this simple substitution of the two would work > >> > > >> > make_move =: ((+. *. -.@:*.) +./) (id {~) > >> > > >> > Nope. Syntax error. > >> > > >> > Have already tried several other variations this AM with the same > result. > >> > > >> > I'm using "Learning J" as a reference and NuVoc. > >> > > >> > http://www.jsoftware.com/help/learning/contents.htm > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 9:57 PM, David Lambert <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> >> xor can be not equal ~: > >> >> > >> >> or bitwise 2b10110 b. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On 05/28/2017 08:00 AM, [email protected] > wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> Message: 5 > >> >>> Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 23:51:29 -0400 > >> >>> From: Michael Rice<[email protected]> > >> >>> To: programming<[email protected]> > >> >>> Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Function creation, without creating > >> >>> subfunctions > >> >>> Message-ID: > >> >>> <CAGw08vM_5CttMFY45F6zAAto-doycQYkXqRf8uRWC=0Ug9xcOw@mail. > >> >>> gmail.com> > >> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > >> >>> > >> >>> Yes, that worked. New board created, without changing the old board > or > >> the > >> >>> move. > >> >>> > >> >>> board =: 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 > >> >>> move =: 0 2 5 > >> >>> make_move =: ((+. *. -.@:*.) +./) (1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 > >> >>> |.!.0~ > >> >>> 3 1 $ -) > >> >>> board make_move move > >> >>> 0 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 > >> >>> board > >> >>> 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 > >> >>> move > >> >>> 0 2 5 > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------ > ---------- > >> >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/ > forums.htm > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------ > ---------- > >> > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/ > forums.htm > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
