This also works under Windows 7 but I will be upgrading my other PC to
Windows 10 soon, mainly to be able to use the webview functionality in J.

On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 9:53 PM Devon McCormick <devon...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes!
> Thank you!
>
>
> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 9:50 PM bill lam <bbill....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Does  the "-prompt" option work for you?
>>
>> On Fri, May 15, 2020, 9:46 AM Devon McCormick <devon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > OK - Finally got Win 10 started while only on my first beer, installed J
>> > 9.02 but still get no prompt under emacs.  I did full installs with
>> pacman.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 9:26 PM Devon McCormick <devon...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > It looks like my usual "jconsole under emacs" problem - no prompt - is
>> > > back.  This time, running with an older version of the console does
>> not
>> > > appear to fix it.
>> > > I notice that the new jconsole.exe is substantially larger than the
>> older
>> > > version.
>> > > Do other emacs users get this problem or is it a Windows 7 issue?
>> > >
>> > > I went to my Windows 10 machine to try it there but
>> > > 1) computer will not come out of sleep mode, so I hold down the power
>> > > button whereupon
>> > > 2) I get the message "Applying updates/Do not turn off your computer"
>> > > 3) I go get a beer.
>> > > When I come back, I see the message "We couldn't complete the
>> > > update/Undoing changes/Do not turn off your computer"
>> > > 4) I wait for a while until I see the windows logo, then
>> > > 5) go to 2.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 8:53 PM bill lam <bbill....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> the non blas implementation is also good and keeps improving, the
>> > relative
>> > >> performance varies between different platforms, cpu, compilers, so
>> there
>> > >> is
>> > >> no definite answer to the best threshold values. If you found non
>> blas
>> > is
>> > >> always better in your computer, then you can disable blas in your
>> > >> startup.ijs .
>> > >>
>> > >> On Fri, May 15, 2020, 8:45 AM Joey K Tuttle <j...@qued.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> > OK, that makes sense (I love it when a 1000 1000 matrix product is
>> > >> "small"
>> > >> > - thinking back to when I first did that benchmark in a 32 KILObyte
>> > APL
>> > >> > workspace - Moore's law has been quite a ride!)
>> > >> >
>> > >> > But I'm still a little puzzled why my "default" appears to perform
>> in
>> > >> > between always and never.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > > On 2020May 14, at 17:36, bill lam <bbill....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > +/ . * has 2 implementions blas and non blas, generally blas is
>> > >> faster on
>> > >> > > large matrix. there are default thresholds m*n*p to choose blas,
>> the
>> > >> > monad
>> > >> > > (9!:58)"0 i.3
>> > >> > > reports the threshold for integer, double and complex.
>> > >> > > the dyad set the threshold with 2 special values that I had
>> > mentioned.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > % . calls +/ . * internally in its implemention.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > I suspect the size of matrix you tested is "small" by today's
>> > >> standard so
>> > >> > > non blas is faster.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > This needs tuning, you may experiment with different thresholds
>> and
>> > >> > > different matrixes to get the best results.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > On Fri, May 15, 2020, 8:17 AM Joey K Tuttle <j...@qued.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >> Bill,
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >> I had no idea about this - where can I read about blas vs
>> non-blas?
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >> It would seem that my "default" is neither of your suggested
>> cases
>> > -
>> > >> but
>> > >> > >> again, no idea what is implied.
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >> MBpro-3:~ jkt$ jb
>> > >> > >>   JVERSION
>> > >> > >> Engine: j902/j64avx2/darwin
>> > >> > >> Beta-a: commercial/2020-05-09T10:56:17 clang-11-0-0
>> > >> > >> Library: 9.02.03
>> > >> > >> Platform: Darwin 64
>> > >> > >> Installer: J902 install
>> > >> > >> InstallPath: /applications/j902
>> > >> > >> Contact: www.jsoftware.com
>> > >> > >>   3 timex '%. 1000 1000 ?@$ 0'
>> > >> > >> 0.2393233333 44041920
>> > >> > >>   0 (9!:58)"0 i.3
>> > >> > >> 1 1 1
>> > >> > >>   3 timex '%. 1000 1000 ?@$ 0'
>> > >> > >> 0.3294893333 44041920
>> > >> > >>   _1 (9!:58)"0 i.3
>> > >> > >> 1 1 1
>> > >> > >>   3 timex '%. 1000 1000 ?@$ 0'
>> > >> > >> 0.2068576667 44041920
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >> I do like the increased speed from the default to the _1
>> (9!:58)"0
>> > >> i.3
>> > >> > >> case. I would like to know more about the implications.
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >>> On 2020May 14, at 16:23, bill lam <bbill....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> > >>>
>> > >> > >>> Joey, another possibility is blas vs non-blas code being
>> called.
>> > >> > >>>
>> > >> > >>> foreign 9!:58 can set threshold
>> > >> > >>> _1 (9!:58)"0 i.3       NB.  +/ .*  never use blas
>> > >> > >>> 0 (9!:58)"0 i.3        NB.  +/ .*  alwasy use blas
>> > >> > >>>
>> > >> > >>> Can you try execute
>> > >> > >>> _1 (9!:58)"0 i.3
>> > >> > >>> then run your benchmark, then execute
>> > >> > >>> 0 (9!:58)"0 i.3
>> > >> > >>> then run benchmark again and verify which mode you are using by
>> > >> > default?
>> > >> > >>>
>> > >> > >>>
>> > >> > >>> On Fri, May 15, 2020, 5:32 AM Joey K Tuttle <j...@qued.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >> > >>>
>> > >> > >>>> Installed under OS X 10.14.6 easily - but I'm puzzled why "my"
>> > >> > benchmark
>> > >> > >>>>
>> > >> > >>>>  timex '%. 1000 1000 ?@$ 0'
>> > >> > >>>>
>> > >> > >>>> takes more than twice as much cpu compared to j901...  (space
>> > used
>> > >> is
>> > >> > >>>> identical)
>> > >> > >>>>
>> > >> > >>>>> On 2020May 14, at 14:27, Henry Rich <henryhr...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >> > >>>>>
>> > >> > >>>>> This beta has a few language changes:
>> > >> > >>>>>
>> > >> > >>>>> * Fold (u F:. v) has been redefined to execute v first,
>> then, u
>> > >> > >>>>>
>> > >> > >>>>> * u0`u1`...@v now has infinite rank.  v is executed first to
>> > >> decide
>> > >> > the
>> > >> > >>>> cell-rank, and which verb is to be executed for each cell;
>> then
>> > >> the u
>> > >> > >> verbs
>> > >> > >>>> are executed, either one cell at a time or in one call to each
>> > >> verb,
>> > >> > to
>> > >> > >>>> execute on a list of cells at once. Therefore, each u verb
>> needs
>> > >> to be
>> > >> > >> able
>> > >> > >>>> to handle single cell or a list of input cells.
>> > >> > >>>>>
>> > >> > >>>>> * semiduals are supported at last: x u&.:(v`a:) y applies v
>> only
>> > >> to
>> > >> > x,
>> > >> > >>>> and x u&.:(a:`v) y applies v only to y.
>> > >> > >>>>>
>> > >> > >>>>> Henry Rich
>> > >> > >>>>>
>> > >> > >>>>> On 5/14/2020 3:49 PM, Eric Iverson wrote:
>> > >> > >>>>>> The first 902 beta release is available for
>> > windows/macos/linux.
>> > >> > >>>>>>
>> > >> > >>>>>> https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/System/Installation/J902
>> > >> > >>>>>>
>> > >> > >>>>>> Availability of new releases will be announced here.
>> > >> > >>>>>>
>> > >> > >>>>>> Questions, problems, etc should be addressed to the beta
>> forum.
>> > >> > >>>>>>
>> > >> >
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>> > > Devon McCormick, CFA
>> > >
>> > > Quantitative Consultant
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
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