Yes! Thank you!
On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 9:50 PM bill lam <bbill....@gmail.com> wrote: > Does the "-prompt" option work for you? > > On Fri, May 15, 2020, 9:46 AM Devon McCormick <devon...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > OK - Finally got Win 10 started while only on my first beer, installed J > > 9.02 but still get no prompt under emacs. I did full installs with > pacman. > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 9:26 PM Devon McCormick <devon...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > It looks like my usual "jconsole under emacs" problem - no prompt - is > > > back. This time, running with an older version of the console does not > > > appear to fix it. > > > I notice that the new jconsole.exe is substantially larger than the > older > > > version. > > > Do other emacs users get this problem or is it a Windows 7 issue? > > > > > > I went to my Windows 10 machine to try it there but > > > 1) computer will not come out of sleep mode, so I hold down the power > > > button whereupon > > > 2) I get the message "Applying updates/Do not turn off your computer" > > > 3) I go get a beer. > > > When I come back, I see the message "We couldn't complete the > > > update/Undoing changes/Do not turn off your computer" > > > 4) I wait for a while until I see the windows logo, then > > > 5) go to 2. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 8:53 PM bill lam <bbill....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> the non blas implementation is also good and keeps improving, the > > relative > > >> performance varies between different platforms, cpu, compilers, so > there > > >> is > > >> no definite answer to the best threshold values. If you found non blas > > is > > >> always better in your computer, then you can disable blas in your > > >> startup.ijs . > > >> > > >> On Fri, May 15, 2020, 8:45 AM Joey K Tuttle <j...@qued.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> > OK, that makes sense (I love it when a 1000 1000 matrix product is > > >> "small" > > >> > - thinking back to when I first did that benchmark in a 32 KILObyte > > APL > > >> > workspace - Moore's law has been quite a ride!) > > >> > > > >> > But I'm still a little puzzled why my "default" appears to perform > in > > >> > between always and never. > > >> > > > >> > > On 2020May 14, at 17:36, bill lam <bbill....@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > +/ . * has 2 implementions blas and non blas, generally blas is > > >> faster on > > >> > > large matrix. there are default thresholds m*n*p to choose blas, > the > > >> > monad > > >> > > (9!:58)"0 i.3 > > >> > > reports the threshold for integer, double and complex. > > >> > > the dyad set the threshold with 2 special values that I had > > mentioned. > > >> > > > > >> > > % . calls +/ . * internally in its implemention. > > >> > > > > >> > > I suspect the size of matrix you tested is "small" by today's > > >> standard so > > >> > > non blas is faster. > > >> > > > > >> > > This needs tuning, you may experiment with different thresholds > and > > >> > > different matrixes to get the best results. > > >> > > > > >> > > On Fri, May 15, 2020, 8:17 AM Joey K Tuttle <j...@qued.com> wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > >> Bill, > > >> > >> > > >> > >> I had no idea about this - where can I read about blas vs > non-blas? > > >> > >> > > >> > >> It would seem that my "default" is neither of your suggested > cases > > - > > >> but > > >> > >> again, no idea what is implied. > > >> > >> > > >> > >> MBpro-3:~ jkt$ jb > > >> > >> JVERSION > > >> > >> Engine: j902/j64avx2/darwin > > >> > >> Beta-a: commercial/2020-05-09T10:56:17 clang-11-0-0 > > >> > >> Library: 9.02.03 > > >> > >> Platform: Darwin 64 > > >> > >> Installer: J902 install > > >> > >> InstallPath: /applications/j902 > > >> > >> Contact: www.jsoftware.com > > >> > >> 3 timex '%. 1000 1000 ?@$ 0' > > >> > >> 0.2393233333 44041920 > > >> > >> 0 (9!:58)"0 i.3 > > >> > >> 1 1 1 > > >> > >> 3 timex '%. 1000 1000 ?@$ 0' > > >> > >> 0.3294893333 44041920 > > >> > >> _1 (9!:58)"0 i.3 > > >> > >> 1 1 1 > > >> > >> 3 timex '%. 1000 1000 ?@$ 0' > > >> > >> 0.2068576667 44041920 > > >> > >> > > >> > >> I do like the increased speed from the default to the _1 > (9!:58)"0 > > >> i.3 > > >> > >> case. I would like to know more about the implications. > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >>> On 2020May 14, at 16:23, bill lam <bbill....@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> Joey, another possibility is blas vs non-blas code being called. > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> foreign 9!:58 can set threshold > > >> > >>> _1 (9!:58)"0 i.3 NB. +/ .* never use blas > > >> > >>> 0 (9!:58)"0 i.3 NB. +/ .* alwasy use blas > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> Can you try execute > > >> > >>> _1 (9!:58)"0 i.3 > > >> > >>> then run your benchmark, then execute > > >> > >>> 0 (9!:58)"0 i.3 > > >> > >>> then run benchmark again and verify which mode you are using by > > >> > default? > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> On Fri, May 15, 2020, 5:32 AM Joey K Tuttle <j...@qued.com> > wrote: > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>>> Installed under OS X 10.14.6 easily - but I'm puzzled why "my" > > >> > benchmark > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>>> timex '%. 1000 1000 ?@$ 0' > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>>> takes more than twice as much cpu compared to j901... (space > > used > > >> is > > >> > >>>> identical) > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>>>> On 2020May 14, at 14:27, Henry Rich <henryhr...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > >> > >>>>> > > >> > >>>>> This beta has a few language changes: > > >> > >>>>> > > >> > >>>>> * Fold (u F:. v) has been redefined to execute v first, then, > u > > >> > >>>>> > > >> > >>>>> * u0`u1`...@v now has infinite rank. v is executed first to > > >> decide > > >> > the > > >> > >>>> cell-rank, and which verb is to be executed for each cell; then > > >> the u > > >> > >> verbs > > >> > >>>> are executed, either one cell at a time or in one call to each > > >> verb, > > >> > to > > >> > >>>> execute on a list of cells at once. Therefore, each u verb > needs > > >> to be > > >> > >> able > > >> > >>>> to handle single cell or a list of input cells. > > >> > >>>>> > > >> > >>>>> * semiduals are supported at last: x u&.:(v`a:) y applies v > only > > >> to > > >> > x, > > >> > >>>> and x u&.:(a:`v) y applies v only to y. > > >> > >>>>> > > >> > >>>>> Henry Rich > > >> > >>>>> > > >> > >>>>> On 5/14/2020 3:49 PM, Eric Iverson wrote: > > >> > >>>>>> The first 902 beta release is available for > > windows/macos/linux. > > >> > >>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>> https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/System/Installation/J902 > > >> > >>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>> Availability of new releases will be announced here. > > >> > >>>>>> > > >> > >>>>>> Questions, problems, etc should be addressed to the beta > forum. > > >> > >>>>>> > > >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > >>>>>> For information about J forums see > > >> > >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > >> > >>>>> > > >> > >>>>> > > >> > >>>>> -- > > >> > >>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > > >> > >>>>> https://www.avg.com > > >> > >>>>> > > >> > >>>>> > > >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > >>>>> For information about J forums see > > >> > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>>> > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > >>>> For information about J forums see > > >> > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > >> > >>>> > > >> > >>> > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > >>> For information about J forums see > > >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > >> For information about J forums see > > >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > > For information about J forums see > > >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > >> > > > >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > For information about J forums see > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > >> > > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Devon McCormick, CFA > > > > > > Quantitative Consultant > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Devon McCormick, CFA > > > > Quantitative Consultant > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > -- Devon McCormick, CFA Quantitative Consultant ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
