We will never know, will we? 😎 ________________________________ From: Programming <programming-boun...@forums.jsoftware.com> on behalf of Raul Miller <rauldmil...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2023 5:51:49 PM To: programm...@jsoftware.com <programm...@jsoftware.com> Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Search
Has anyone written that content for the J community? Thanks, -- Raul On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 9:36 AM Richard Donovan <rsdono...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Try searching for cobol lisp pl/1 c++ fortran assembly basic etc etc to see > the sort of content that J users are missing out on! > ________________________________ > From: Programming <programming-boun...@forums.jsoftware.com> on behalf of > Raul Miller <rauldmil...@gmail.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2023 3:07:54 PM > To: programm...@jsoftware.com <programm...@jsoftware.com> > Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Search > > I don't think that it's actually that simple. > > Aside from the difficulty of retrofitting a new name with high search > engine selectivity (e.g. nuvoc) onto existing content so that we could > find it with less effort, I think we're ignoring some of the other > pressures out there, which interfere with finding content. > > (Also, of course, in a variety of ways, this is similar in character > to some of the difficulties we have with "chat ai" mechanisms.) > > We imagine that other programming languages have it easier. However, > in my experience, finding a full variety of relevant content has been > becoming more and more difficult in all subject areas. (I could > speculate on major issues, but that probably would belong in a chat > forum thread.) > > This is not to say that search engines (and/or chat ais) are useless, > but there's a variety of reasons for it to not be comprehensive. > > Thanks, > > -- > Raul > > On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 11:12 PM Richard Donovan <rsdono...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > What is really weird is that the extremely intelligent humans who invented > > this remarkable language didn’t foresee this problem in the first place! > > > > > On 9 May 2023, at 22:47, Hauke Rehr <hauke.r...@uni-jena.de> wrote: > > > > > > You are right, C is an ususable language. > > > I think noone uses it. You cannot search. > > > > > > This thread is silly. > > > J is one of <size of alphabet> single letter names. > > > It’s fine. > > > > > >> Am 09.05.23 um 22:56 schrieb Richard Donovan: > > >> One of the most frustrating things about J is its name! For example, on > > >> Stack Exchange code review it seems impossible to search for any J > > >> articles, comments, code snippets etc. and I could suggest that rather > > >> than bother about whether to call the latest version J4, J904 etc which > > >> is trivial, you do something really useful such as change the name of > > >> the language to something sensible that can be searched upon. I know > > >> that in the past radical changes have been made to J eg changing x. and > > >> y. to x and y and I also know that a change of name would take a while > > >> to filter through but I do feel that eventually this change would have > > >> incredible benefits, similar to the recent long overdue introduction of > > >> sensible error messages which has been a real boon to me! > > >> Richard Donovan > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> For information about J forums see > > >> 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