long 'o', fer sure! also, I stress the *third* syllable in ambivalent On 8 Jun 2011, at 05:58, PMA wrote:
> I've never doubted his awareness of it. How about > pronunciation in this case -- do you folks speak the > J term with a long 'o' (as I would assume from its > derivation)? > > Roger Hui wrote: >> Ken was well aware of the existing meaning >> of "proverb" when he coined the new meaning for >> it in J. He was not one to let existing meanings >> stand in the way if the new meaning is apt. >> e.g. noun, verb, adverb, valence, ambivalence, >> locale, inflection, rank, ... >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: PMA<[email protected]> >> Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011 18:02 >> Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] One word description of J >> To: Programming forum<[email protected]> >> >>> This reminds me to ask: When the J term "proverb" was invented >>> (derived via grammatical logic from the existing "pronoun"), what >>> thought was given to the result's pre-existence in the language >>> as meaning something *else*? >>> >>> P.A. >>> >>> [email protected] wrote: >>>> I think that the word "feral" has negative and destructive >>>> connotations. Not a word to use if you want to promote >>> the use of J >>>> to a manager. >>>> >>>> Surely we need a word that indicates incredible usefulness or >>>> competence. How about "dextrous" or "omnidextrous". >>>> >>>> Simon >>>> >>>> >>>> Quoting John Baker<[email protected]>: >>>> >>>>> I've been thinking about what's a good single word >>> description of J. >>>>> Something that suggests the important features of >>> the language and conveys >>>>> the spirit of J programming. I offer the word: >>> feral. Here's a footnote I >>>>> recently added to the upcoming JOD 0.9.3 documentation. >>>>> >>>>> Coming up with an accurate description of J is a challenge. >>> The language is >>>>> definitely array oriented and contains an almost pure functional >>>>> tacit sub-language. However J also contains substantial >>> imperative features >>>>> and its clever use of locales and locale paths simulates most >>> of the useful >>>>> features of object oriented languages. Waving your hands and >>> declaring a >>>>> language multi-paradigm or agile is the standard way out but >>> unfortunately>> this does not distinguish J. I think J is a >>> *feral* programming language. >>>>> The word feral sounds like a mixture of functional and >>> imperative and the >>>>> established meaning of feral: almost wild, wilily, able to >>> survive on your >>>>> own but willing to cooperate – on your own terms - conveys >>> the independent >>>>> free thinking character of J programmers. >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- Dan T. Abell :: dabell at txcorp dot com :: 303.444.2452 Tech-X Corp., 5621 Arapahoe Ave, Ste A, Boulder CO 80303 http://www.txcorp.com :: 303.748.6894/c 303.448.7756/fx ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
